Merry at Eighty

Happy 80th Birthday, Madame Imelda Romualdez Marcos!!!

There were sooooo many people…

Insouciant heiress related that her mother, Real estate billionairess [ sister of the late grand Manila heiress ], attended for old time’s sake, for friendship’s sake, despite her multiple health problems.  However, after greeting Madame Marcos, she discovered that she had absolutely nowhere to sit.  So Real estate billionairess quietly left the Sofitel Philippine Plaza ballroom and hobbled to her waiting limousine.  Insouciant heiress decided not to attend the big party of 02 July because she very well knew that 1,000 of Madame Marcos’ most intimate friends would surely shoehorn into the hotel ballroom.  However, most of the Marcos inner circle [ at least the surviving ones 😛 ] were already present at the smaller, but still grand, party the previous evening held at the pre-Malacanang Marcos residence along Ortega Street in San Juan.  Everyone who mattered was present.

Best line of the evening [ 02 July 2009 ]:

Influential media lady:  “O, ****!!!  Why are you here, outside the ballroom???”

Marcos daughter:  “Because I don’t know anyone inside!!!”

Life is funny, isn’t it?  Outrageously so.  It’s just a nonsensical, continuous reversal and counter-reversal of fortunes.  For all:  for the always bad, the sometimes bad, the sometimes good, the always good.  There was the former First Lady, Madame Imelda Romualdez-Marcos on her 80th birthday, resplendent in all her renewed power and glory, despite her supposed 3,000 shoes and supposed 3,000 corresponding sins.  Then there was the former President Corazon Cojuangco-Aquino in the ICU intensive care unit of the Makati Medical Center, attended by her loving family, suffering from colon cancer despite having led the Philippines from the 21-year Marcos tyranny.

“Because I live for the true, the good, and the beautiful…”

And what are we, ordinary mortals, supposed to learn from this???

NADA.

Life is ridiculous.  Don’t sweat it.  It doesn’t make sense.  Never did.  Never will.

Period.   🙂   🙂   🙂

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127 Comments

  1. Ned Belleza Algabre said,

    October 4, 2009 at 11:52 am

    In many many years to come Imelda might be another icon admired for her fashion sense her love of the beautiful life., as sort of a Queen from stories in the past. Maybe remembered by the next generations as the one with the thousands of shoes and hundreds of Gowns and then they would dream to be like her. Just like those who wanted to have a little Versailles palace replica built. Well just imagine how much was spent by France to build that Palace for the King?? and where he acquired the money to build it….O well I wonder what the babies born today will say about Imelda Marcos after 20-30 years from now, or how she will be recalled? Oh when a teenage cousin of mine saw Imelda on TV looking regal during her birthday party she just remarked..Uy 80 na sya!? She’s beautiful ha, sya yung may madaming shoes! Wow!( and she just looked at her dreamily) ,,,,hmmmm I guess that would start giving her a passion for shoe collecting when she already got a job ( she wouldnt know about the martial law era or the corruption cases against them, for sure she would only care about the shoes, and I guess that would also be what the next generation will think about her…that’s the reality), well for sure a new corrupt official will be the new star of their generation, and that’s who they will be concerned about and so on and so forth . Hayy buhay talaga di ba … =)
    O sya lets just work hard and have a simple but happy lazy afternoon merienda during sundays enjoying every moment even without the Chateaus full of conroversies………

  2. Ned Belleza Algabre said,

    October 4, 2009 at 11:27 am

    Well, even if it was said that they looted hundreds of Billons of dollars and spent it on their extravagance. I guess after a hundred years they will just be another tale a la Louis XIV and his Opulent Versailles palace or Marie Antoinette and her gowns that is being admired all over the world for the glamour and opulence of the lives they lived..without knowing what they really did and how they financed their uber opulent palaces and mind boggling frivolous lifestyles. Unless you read the history they will remain a Fashion icon and a Fairy tale for many. Ohh that’s life. I know we all can voice out our opinions in Blogs but the harsh reality will still stand. Those who wanted to recover the Marcos wealth would also want to get it. And who would convict them if people who have the power and influence are corupt as well? Though they would do so much to have a clean image to the public while hiding their dark ambitions in their hearts. Ahhhh the lure and power of money. Sad but true. Yeah I guess there is a little Imelda in all of us…not about the shoe collecting huh….but that yearn for wealth and extravagant life when money is laid in front of you. Though those who fear the commandments would try to fight that temptation. But for for sure many would give in.

  3. September 28, 2009 at 3:04 am

    Jules:

    “Scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours” is a universal reality.

    Rent-Seekers have no Regime.

    Woe to those who have no connections!!!

    Toto Gonzalez

  4. Jules said,

    September 28, 2009 at 2:48 am

    I stumbled on this just yday:

    MARCOS ALLIES CONTINUE TO PROSPER
    IN PHILIPPINES – 27/September 2009

    MANILA (AFP) – – Twenty years after dictator Ferdinand Marcos died, some of his former allies remain the richest men in the Philippines while those who have sought to bring them to justice are angry and frustrated.

    Two of the most famous tycoons, Filipino-Chinese Lucio Tan and the politically powerful Eduardo Cojuangco are listed by Forbes magazine as the second and seventh richest people in the country respectively.

    Benjamin Romualdez, brother of Marcos’s flamboyant wife, Imelda Marcos, is number 30 on the rich list, while a host of others who did deals with the late strongman remain very influential in Philippine business and political circles. Scene

    “It’s a sad commentary. It looks like we are a nation that cannot aspire to redeem itself,” said Frank Chavez, who as solicitor-general in the post-Marcos era sought to recover the alleged ill-gotten wealth of the dictator and his allies.

    Just as with Imelda Marcos, none of his allies have gone to jail for any wrongdoings during the dictatorship, and they have successfully beaten civilian and government efforts to take back wealth that was accumulated then.

    After Marcos was ousted in 1986, his successor, Corazon Aquino, created a special body, the Presidential Commission on Good Government, which was meant to recover the supposed ill-gotten wealth of the Marcoses and their cronies.

    The commission sequestered many of the businessmen’s biggest companies and assets, pending legal proceedings to determine if this wealth was legitimate.

    A handful of those cases, including against Tan and Cojuangco, remain outstanding.

    Some former Marcos associates surrendered assets in exchange for the dropping of charges against them, while others fled into hiding overseas.

    Most of them were content with lower profiles compared with the limelight they enjoyed under Marcos.

    But others, particularly Tan and Cojuangco, dodged their critics while using their powerful contacts and sharp business acumen to create astounding empires.

    Tan, 75, whose fortune is estimated by Forbes at 1.7 billion dollars, was allowed preferential tax treatment during the Marcos years for his tobacco company which he parlayed into other sectors.

    He has seen his portfolio blossom to include some of the country’s biggest banks, national flag-carrier Philippine Airlines, beer, liquor and beverage companies, as well as large land holdings both at home and abroad.

    Cojuangco, now worth an estimated 660 million dollars, was a member of Marcos’s inner-circle known as the Rolex 12 and given monopoly control of the lucrative coconut industry, which he used to take over beer giant San Miguel.

    Cojuangco, now aged 74, fled the country on the same plane with Marcos in 1986 but returned in 1989 and even made an unsuccessful run for the presidency in 1992.

    He still heads a political party, the Nationalist People’s Coalition, which is aligned with the administration of President Gloria Arroyo.

    Meanwhile, Romualdez, who was given control of the banking and broadcasting interests of Marcos’s jailed opponents during the dictatorship, still has mining interests among others, and has an estimated worth of 70 million dollars.

    The failure of the government to jail any crony or to recover their assets has been harshly condemned by many in the Philippines and raised suspicions that shady deals allowed them to hold onto their wealth.

    “The justice system has failed,” said Alberto Lim, executive director of the Makati Business Club, an organisation that has been a vocal critic of cronyism.

    “Government lawyers are poorly paid… judges accept bribes and government lawyers just do not have the skill and competence.”

    Global graft watchdog Transparency International ranks the Philippines as the 39th most corrupt country in the world.

    Lim said there was a lack of political will from Arroyo’s government to continue the fight against former Marcos associates.

    “The cronies are now all supportive of the administration. I can’t think of one crony who is not supportive of Arroyo. It is back to the bad old days,” Lim said.

    The offices of Cojuangco and Tan declined to comment to AFP for this article.

  5. dtfuygikjnlm said,

    August 25, 2009 at 2:13 am

    Talagang Tsismoso: my point exactly.

  6. talagang tsismoso said,

    August 15, 2009 at 6:27 am

    I saw Judy Araneta together with her sister baby fores & jorge & stella araneta entertaining mrs marcos last march at the opening of the painting exhibit of betsy brias in gateway mall cubao they were all seated in one big table, may be judy araneta was not close to mrs marcos but what i know baby fores is very close to the brother of mrs marcos, kokoy

  7. Jules said,

    August 12, 2009 at 6:52 am

    To JAA:

    In the same fashion of the never-ending
    ribbon cutting/launching event…
    there is actually an equally never-ending
    fashion-sense issue
    between Mr. and his Mrs…
    because she HOARDS wearables
    and sell those in her shoppe
    unknowing to Mr. that
    Mrs.’ stocks are just a Tip of the Iceberg
    and MORE of those are stored in a warehouse.
    Hihihi 8D

    Apparently, Cumbi* stuff are
    so yesteryears…
    only those performing Live On stage
    in Tokyo can wear them…

    LoL ;P

    Cheers!

    xOxO

  8. JAA said,

    August 11, 2009 at 5:58 am

    around 2 yrs ago, i saw this news item about some product or store launching at the Araneta Center in Cubao. The Imeldific cut the ribbon with Judy Araneta Roxas assisting her (?!). I thought they were on the opposite sides of all fences imaginable – political, social, etc. Were they even friends at all?

  9. larry leviste said,

    July 27, 2009 at 2:51 am

    LET us be friends.

    THAT would be best.

    OR take a leavemuna.

    TO recharge, recoup and re-consider.

  10. T.J. said,

    July 23, 2009 at 6:58 am

    Now we’re divided and conquered once more. Lola Meldy did it again.

  11. tibo said,

    July 18, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    richard k, that’s exactly the one and only thing that impresses me about her and him to this very day. The cunning, revolting, artful genius of theft and kleptocracy! She learned well from the master no less. She may have started honest and earnest but when the roast started smelling delicious and the secret recipes unfolded before her, there was no stopping the feast. This was a fast learning iron chef in the making. You think 20 years of macho military rule, the sharpest minds of cabinet secretaries, ministers (and who’s the sharpest of them all?), advisers, technocrats, a rubber stamp parliamentary (which is why i do not like this form of government), a rabidly devotedly corrupted military, an equally rapacious raft of cronies and enablers, plus the deceptive charisma of the madam enrapturing the masa, the grandmaster spinning the complex web of presidential decrees that legalized the thievery, the GRANDEST COLLABORATION of a cast of thousands through three generations! Can you imagine how this feasting on our national treasury was carried out through the years by the brightest legal and private minds in conspiracy with ALMOST ALL the institutions that we should be holding incorruptible! Of course she will win these cases. You tell me that having won all these cases she is therefore innocent? I would be a dumb, shameless fool to say yes. Know that there are many of my countrymen who are NOT fooled. On another note, the road to a mature democracy is ardous. But, we are learning and getting there albeit the difficult economy. Our democracy is the most vibrant, and in spite of it being a weak point at times, it is still our strongest. Kindly go to post # 8…then #40.

  12. isabella said,

    July 18, 2009 at 2:26 am

    G.I.
    Please be kind to yourself….it is very taxing and tedious to take the task of thinking for other people!

  13. Garganta Inflamada said,

    July 17, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    OK, Richard K, as promised…the best answers I can give to your questions…and without wanting to devote any more undue time on such a tired but essentially depleted subject of little intrinsic value…

    1. Well, she only has herself to blame. She put herself out there as some sort of ‘Joan of Arc / Madonna’ model for the Philippines. Oh, please. Note that she never said for the ‘poor people of the Philippines’..but for Filipinos…and she must’ve meant for her family and the other Filipino klepto/oligarchy (her ilk) that the Marcos reign created. So she is subject to ridicule.

    2. That she “was never convicted of anything” (so far…well, the Hawaii court did not exonerate them) on her own. Well, we all know O.J. Simpson poked an eye of Lady Justice with a stacked jury…that still doesn not absolve him in the eyes and minds of others…who are entitled to their verdicts. Phooey on that ridiculous saying…innocent until proven guilty. If you believe that, here…then I have a beautiful statue in New York Harbor I can sell you.

    3. I believe she NEVER personally dirtied her hands with such churlish chores as actually strangling someone or signing the order to have so-and-so picked up. But who was buying the Manhattan properties, the Picassos and Matisses whether for the people’s museum or for the Madame’s boudoir? Who was jetting around the world in the name of ‘her husband and her country? So, she would only be a partner in the ‘glorious’ achievements but not in the illicit, illegal, criminal wsys by which those means were achieved? Who was enjoying the ill-gotten spoils of war and flaunting them around the world as if honest, hard-working people did not exist? Oh please, wake up. She was a silent partner in crime in much the same way Jiang Jing was ying to husband Mao’s yang, as Elena Ceausescu shared Nicolae’s bed and edicts; as Bonnie was Clyde’s moll and fellow blood-thirsty gangster. Need I go on?

    And here’s perhaps what I most disdain about that woman. She adds insult to injury with her phoniness. I have seen her upclose in person many a time…and not once did I believe that she was a sincere person in her dealings, in her manner, in what she believed was “true.” (Exception: her ‘holes in the ozone’ theory.)

    In an official capacity, let me recount this oft-forgotten incident: I remember an incident in, I believe, it was around July 1969 or 1970 (or around the time they were trying to get the first Con-Con off the ground so El Gran Tonto (Makoy) could continue to rule as a Parliamnetarian past his alloted, legal 2 terms. There was this elderly delegate from I believe, Leyte (or Samar) of all places — but an upright man of conviction. He spilled to the press that Imelda had given him a couple of thousand pesos cash (in a bayong) to ensure his loyalties. The old man felt insulted; he had the money returned to the Palace and, as I said, told the then very independent Manila press. In the meantime, perhaps sensing that this was not going to over welll, the Palace had started concocting word that ‘Ma’m Meldy’ was having morning sickness and was ‘pregnant’ again. Whoopeee! Human interest angle!! Uglita would have a new baby sister…or brother!! Well, when the bribery accusations broke, the Palace had their own story too…Mrs. Marcos, due to all the undue stress she was being subjected to…had a miscarriage!! And so she could recover away from all the intrigues and business ofthe Palace, was going away to the presidential yacht docked in the harbor, to recuperate.

    Well, excuse me…there was a storm raging over the Manila area those days, the seas were choppy…and a woman who had just ‘lost her fetus’ would be trying to recuperate in a yacht buffeted by angry waves? EXCUSE ME? Why don’t you just put a hood over my head and tell me this is a good breathing exercise? If that wasn’t (another of) the biggest, bold-faced LIES you have tried to perpetuate on a trusting populace (most of whom still had their good will), then I DON’T KNOW what is. I was only about 20 then…but I sure knew a fabricated story when I saw one. I grew up pretty fast around that time. (Unless the morgues of The Manila Times have all been redacted, the curious reader I am sure will find the salient facts to this episode.)

    So as I said, she was ‘always’ acting. It was always a ‘put on’ persona. Please stop insulting me.

    So to me, she has always been “la grana bufana” (the grand buffoon), and worthily so. If you act that way, then you deserve to be ridiculed… And if nobody has called you for it, then for all the thinking people around…or for those who cannot think, then I will do it for you.

    If you truly think that Michael Jackson was not a pedophile, that O.J. Simpson was not a murderer, and that Imierda Marcos was not an extravagant fraud and partner in the cumulative crimes of their rule, than here..I offer you tomorrow’s winning lottery ticket. Only $500,000– per segurado iyan; ayos na sa Sweepstakes Office!! 🙂

    Enough about this ditzy woman today. Tomorrow is another day…and I will be ready for a new chapter.

  14. kurdapya said,

    July 17, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    Well said TJ…
    Sabi nga:
    Mahirap makarinig ang nagbibingi-bingihan;
    Mahirap makakita ang nagbubulag-bulagan;
    Mahirap gisingin ang nagtutulog-tulugan…..

  15. MikeJ said,

    July 17, 2009 at 9:32 am

    T.J. – very well said.

  16. T.J. said,

    July 16, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    “None are so blind as those who will not see.”

  17. rod reyes said,

    July 16, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    I was given a book by assemblyman homobono adaza a famous marcos critic the title of the book is leaders from marcos to arroyo authored by assemblyman adaza.

    here is what he said about ferdinand marcos ” in history victors write the story of their generation all about their greatness & achievements since marcos was defeated by forces his faults created contemporary history is unkind to him without realizing that the roads the piers the airports of which filipinos continuing beneficiaries were his works and the nationalistic thrust in business and in the reorientation and a new brand of leadership were all his creations of the man in the long term despite the tremendous faults in concepts and strategies history will not only be kind to him it will find him as one of the philippines greatest presidents not only in terms of courage and brillance but also in matters of achievements

  18. zippo said,

    July 16, 2009 at 9:20 am

    TJ,

    I understand that commandment as perfectly as I understand the legal tenet “Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law” and as perfectly as I understand the Bible passage which states “judge not, and ye shall not be judged; condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned (Luke 6:37)”

    Z 🙂

  19. Adrian Lizares said,

    July 16, 2009 at 12:12 am

    I once saw a movie of a guillotine that had sailed from Port de France to the outbacks of the Isle de Saint Pierre to execute a criminal who as the guillotine sailed turned into an honest and productive member of society – though he was forgiven by the population of the island he nevertheless was beheaded for his crime – much to the disdain of the townsfolk.

    I guess the law had prevailed in that island.

  20. Adrian Lizares said,

    July 16, 2009 at 12:10 am

    I once saw a movie of a guillotine that had sailed from Port de France to the outbacks or Isle de Saint Pierre to execute a criminal who as the guillotine sailed turned into an honest and productive member of soicety – though he was forgiven by the population of the island he nevertheless was beheaded for his crime much to the disdain of the townsfolk.

    I guess the law prevailed in that island.

  21. T.J. said,

    July 15, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Please tell me which part of “Thou Shalt Not Steal” Christian Filipinos find extremely difficult to comprehend.

  22. larry leviste said,

    July 15, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    M U C H A D O A B O U T N O T H I N G.

    M U C H N O T I N G.

    N O T H I N G.

    A D I E U.

  23. Garganta Inflamada said,

    July 15, 2009 at 5:15 am

    Richard K. and everyone else who has kept their and their moral compass on point, thank you for doing so and for your kind words. Will be rather busy for the next 48 hours or so…so I will have to get back to you with the right response.

    Uhmmm…Isabella, the post was directed at me. **rolls eyes** But, congratulations, I noticed you at least got Tita Imierda’s name right. LOL!! Looks like we’ve won you over and you’ve come over (to our side). You go girl!!

    GI

  24. isabella said,

    July 14, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    richard k,

    you hit it right !after these rantings and ravings,you are the one who is able to point the most rational and logical questions-I hope it will open the eyes of many who hurled their judgements against Imierda.

  25. Richard K said,

    July 14, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    To Garganta Inflamada:

    Firstly, may I say that I came across this blog by accident. Secondly, I am quite impressed at your style of writing (too clever for me I think which probably is more suitable in a broadsheet paper, perhaps in the opinions section. You are critical of Imelda, your rhetoric like missiles shooting out from your soul but never rude and hateful unlike some that I have read here. However, as an outsider, I do have some questions to ask you:

    1. This woman has clearly been the object of much hate, ridicule and derision over the decades. I have read things like she should “rot” in jail, thief, murderer, torturer, etc, etc. And yet, she’s out dripping in diamonds, partying on her 80th birthday. If this lady is indeed all that was mentioned, then why won’t anyone do something about it. Everyone seemed to have sued her yet she has gotten away with it? Not only in Philippines but also elsewhere. I mean back in the 80’s (or90’s?)she was in a Manhattan court for all her grave sins, yet she was acquitted? I was watching a documentary on Philippines and it was clear nobody could really prove she stole BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT.She could easily have been indicted all those years and no one would bother as she is much despised.

    2. I do think that yes, there were people killed during her husband’s reign, and a lot of things which are unacceptable however do you honestly think that the economic, social and political problems of Phil wouldn’t be present if it wasn’t they who ruled for all those years.? I for one don’t think that she would directly order people to be killed (although having acquiesce and foreknowledge is a different matter)nor have people tortured. There were subsequent governments who could have made it right but I think that the problems of the nation is rooted on the people themselves. The lack of political maturity maybe? How a people would allow themselves to be lead in such a manner maybe a reason. People still electing passe movie stars and celebrities perhaps prove my point. President Estada went to jail for some crime he has committed which probably is a just fraction compared to that Imelda has allegedly committed/stolen. So why won’t anyone prove beyond reasonable doubt that this lady is such and such. Maybe instead of mudspatting Imelda, you should turn to the government for failing to achieve any form of justice for the Philippine people. One can get angry and passionate about this topic but all one needs is to prove that she indeed is a criminal and why is this not an easy task. Was she not convicted in some lower courts but would eventually win appeals? Why?! If people and governments cannot prove this, perhaps one needs to think that yes she is not innocent and yet maybe not THAT guilty after all??

    3. We live in an era of consumerism and material obsession and Imelda is THE ultimate material girl. I don’t even think some of her artwork are genuine as she boasted to a British journalist, when she enumerated her dizzying collection of artwork in her penthouse. Picasso, Pizarro, Gauguin, Michelangelo..WAIT!! ..A MICHAELANGELO hanging on her apartment. That is hard to believe plus her showing off $950 Billion Belguim account.. This is just some faerie tale from an old martinet.

    So basically that’s all I need to know from you. And I do hope that people won’t quote my silly query and start roaring at me. There won’t be any need for that.

    Cheerio : )

  26. July 14, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    the human mind by nature is open, so let not bodily facticity depolarize the boundless ectoplasm available to the phenomenon of man. liberate the creativity intrinsic to man alone. arise and partake of the boons and blessings of the intellect. that is exactly what irames and rafhorm are manifesting now, go boys. the cambridge and oxford and eaton crowd are rallying behind you.
    be gentle, genteel and gentlemanly, though. come in, unbidden as the rain, and depart, just as briefly, unannounced…

  27. Irames said,

    July 14, 2009 at 10:51 am

    Oh, before I go, I didn’t see Dindong’s latest attempt at a put-down: “Btw. Im not impressed with your french…”

    I see you don’t appreciate my French from Le Rosey? I guess I’ll have to bring it up with the Francophone Swiss director in the next alumni homecoming 🙂

  28. Irames said,

    July 14, 2009 at 9:56 am

    Yes, Rafhorm, a better summarization of this particular thread’s trajectory could not have been done. Great job…And with this in mind, I’m signing off until my attention to either another topic/thread or by an attention-needy poster is grabbed 🙂

    No, Garganta Inflamada, quedate con la corona. You know – and I’m sure – none of us could ever fill it with our heads. Bonne journee a toute le monde!

  29. Chong Mo said,

    July 14, 2009 at 8:38 am

    Congrats Toto. This post of yours has been absolutely sizzling hot. I don’t recall another post over the past couple of years with over 100 heated comments.

    All the best.

  30. danrex said,

    July 14, 2009 at 4:08 am

    Unlike most of the people in this blog, I am one of the rural hoi polloi: I have not been to any grand party in the city nor have I dined and danced at any palatial home.

    But in my heart of hearts, I dream of having a prosperous and just country for my kids. I ache for a time when our country will become another “miracle,” like Singapore perhaps.

    I thus wonder how some of the people in this blog would salivate over GMA’s (decapitated) head but would wax romantic at Imelda’s antics. If the law of attraction or whatever universal law is the main driving force behind any delirious call to forgive and forget, then it’s about time we said we should now forgive GMA and forget her misdeeds because, ahh, after all, she is just attracting all those billions of opportunities and dollars and pesos into herself. And why bother, why cry foul, why scream in indignation now, when, five or ten years later, we Pinoys will only forgive and forget.

    Forgive, yes — but justice first!

    Thanks for reminding us so, GI and Irames.

  31. Garganta Inflamada said,

    July 14, 2009 at 4:01 am

    Rafhorn,

    I heart your post #98.

    I yield my laurel crown to you and Irames. Fight over it fairly.

    GI

  32. Garganta Inflamada said,

    July 14, 2009 at 3:54 am

    OK, I have a new one…

    Agrippina and Caligula

    Lord and Lady Macbeth

    Beowulf and Grendel

    Scylla and Charybdis

    Lucrezia and Cesare

    of course, Evita and Juan

    Bonnie and Clyde

    Jean-Claude and Michele

    Ferdie and Mierdie 🙂 🙂 🙂

    Enjoy!!

  33. isabella said,

    July 14, 2009 at 3:35 am

    sigh,sigh,sigh! good grief we had all contributed so lively and furiously on this topic.See Larry,you really started a storm,but a glorious storm that is. This site is getting more interesting!

  34. rafhorm said,

    July 14, 2009 at 3:29 am

    Z,

    No wonder you willingly proffered your mum to the legal guillotine, insolently confident as you are that it’s the same woeful system that permitted that murderer and thief to steal his freedom, so he could pursue murder and theft on a grander scale. That you seem giddily impressed, even elated, by his filching of liberty rather than heartbroken or, better yet, livid over the glaring denial of justice is telling.

    Growing up, my family conversations orbited around how far to sit from the television set and excited babble over the arbitrary new sofa our father managed to procure on lay-away. So forgive me if I am perplexed with your tarsier-eyed fascination for and overambitious affectations of “Breeding.” It seems a woefully canine pursuit best left to lapdogs. There are a few glorious puns in there somewhere at which Isabella can keep busy pawing for eons x 7.

    The Twat from Tacloban is unquestionably two crumpets short of a proper tea to which Z and Izzy are gagging for invite perhaps hoping to achieve social benediction from the washerwoman’s overspending offspring. Rather ironic aspirations for that ilk frantically trawling for DNA that hints of their being progeny of a half-forgotten hamlet along the Guadalquivir.

    On Izzy’s query about measuring a person based on comments. It’s neither labourious nor challenging to detect that GI, Zippo, and especially Irames have a natural love for words. Oft times it has taken a larger role than the actual topic. Which is not necessarily a bad thing. Regardless of what position I take, I suppose I am guilty of enjoying their written words more than the inhospitable intrusion of topic, facts, substance, and all that which leadens the eyelids.

    Irames uses his/her keyboard to jettison ideas like intercontinental ballistic missiles unleashed with surgical precision. Isabella, confined in her more modest intellectual dimensions, can make exclamation points and smiley faces. That Toto permits us this generous epistolary breadth is celebration of that Freedom of Speech to which the Marcoses are so notoriously disinclined.

  35. larry leviste said,

    July 14, 2009 at 1:53 am

    JUDGE NOT THAT YOU MAY NOT BE JUDGED.

    VENGEANCE IS MINE SAYETH OUR LORD.

    This is the handwriting on THIS wall.

    NEXT POST PLEASE, MON CHER TOTO

    And while this blog bristles nay flames with boiling snorts and forked tongues, MAY WE possibly re-direct this ENERGY to the more present administration at hand. THE AYOKOS stand to perpetuate themselves like the Marcoses. Surely, we must not ALLOW this as HISTORY will repeat and rape and reap itself on our country AGAIN.

    Walang personalan, trabajo nation lang ito as FILIPINOS.

  36. czarevitch said,

    July 13, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    The “rehabilitation” of Imelda reminds me of the effort to do the same for Sir Oswald and Lady Diana Mosley. Sir Oswald was the leader of the Birtish Fascists, and as a consequence, he and Lady Diana were incarcerated for the
    duration of World War II.

    One of the first to object was Lady Diana’s own sister, the writer Jessica Mitford whose politics were the polar opposite of her older sister’s.
    The Mosleys’ rehabilitation went nowhere.

    The sins of the Mosleys happened sixty years ago. We are only 30 years away
    from the long nightmare of the Marcos dictatorship and the unspeakable evil it spawned. And yet so many of us are willing to forget and “move on”, or worse pretend that their crimes never happened or refuse to see how their toxic legacy continues to ravage the country.

    The generation that grew up in the Marcos years seems to accept the inevitability and pervasiveness of corruption in government and society.
    Those of us who remember a better time are simply appalled at the erosion
    of values and what seems the irreversible loss of everything that makes us a decent and honest people.

    But what do you expect when someone like Imelda continues to be admired
    and lionized. Crime does pay, after all. And the bigger the crime, the better
    your chances are of beating the rap and even have your reputation rehabilitated.

    Everyone may be entitled to his opinion. But history will be the judge.

  37. SimonWiez said,

    July 13, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Toto had indeed set the tone of his blog when he referred to the “21-year Marcos tyranny”. Then, proceed and read his next lines.

  38. Irames said,

    July 13, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Another poster needing attention:
    Isabella’s latest, “I am amazed how some bloggers here could easily make conclusions on the persona of an individual based on 2 or 3 comments sent by us! Isn’t it just so judgemental and so mababaw? How could you measure a person based on his/her comments in this blog site? Just asking!”

    You want to know the answer? Well, honey, didn’t you ask for it when you said “Call me a STUPID FOOL but…” There. Dindong just used the name. Happy now? 😉

  39. Irames said,

    July 13, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Excuse me, explain again? I simply did not catch the non-sequitor tantrums that you posted as an argument against my ancestors (how did they come into the picture?) and Aquino being a labor exploiter. Well, if it would salve your bruised intellect (granted you have any), let me assure you that I nor anyone within the big circle of my relatives have NEVER shared coffee nor tea with Cory – not that it’s been established that she and her family exploited the farm workers. The opportunity never arose. Perhaps, unlike La Imierda (as aptly named byGI. Mierda, sabes loque es, no?), Cory is not so fond of ostentatious gathering. After all she doesn’t have to prove and be showy about anything. You and I know where she comes from. And yet she doesn’t go around buying Juan Lunas either.

    So, Dingdong, inhale…exhale…now what were you saying? 😉 But I warn you that I’m really fed up with your trying to get my and GI’s attention for the most shallow reasoning that really should not even be aired on this blog. I’m not only embarrassed for you but I actually think my energy can be better tracked into discussions of more substance. So unless you bring anything better than to erupt into name-calling, please CEASE and DESIST. OR WAIT FOR TOTO’S NEXT THREAD WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL BE ON SOMETHING SUITED TO YOUR CHILDISH REASONING!

  40. MikeJ said,

    July 13, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    Hi Toto! 🙂

    Maybe it’s a good time to post the photo of Imelda when she was my dad’s receptionist at The Central Bank.

    The Imelda my dad knew is different from the Imelda who stayed married to one of the worst crooks the world has ever known.

    My dad said that Imelda was a very conscientious, hard working individual who truly wanted to improve her lot in life the right way.

  41. samcheong-dong said,

    July 13, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Irames what a mess,

    accepting coffee from a labor exploiter without the knowledge of his deeds does not qualify as a disregard nor an acceptance of that person’s crime.
    —————————————————————-
    Just curious: what kind of livelihood did your ancestors engaged in ,back then? So it makes President Aquino a labor exploiter ,too ..based on her family’s sugar farmholdings??? Your trying to project a holier than thou image of yourself and your family based on your scathing remarks. And who are you to judge whether a person can enter heaven or not? STUPID FOOLS

  42. Irames said,

    July 13, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    Dingdong,

    Moi? Making a career of Imelda bashing in THIS blog? Never ending? Well, let me mathematically challenge you to come up with the number of posts in this THREAD (or anywhere else in Toto’s blog) on the subject. See if it comes up to your exaggerated sense of pro-Imelda indignation. If only you had a better sense to be indignant about the rapacious way she and her husband subjected the Philippines, then maybe there’s an iota of redemption in your person. And I have a memo for you: what may be bitchy to you may actually contain the WIT that your intellectual capacity might not be able to appreciate, nor can it be ARTICULATED enough to sink in the mushy matter you call your brain. Never mind, you wanting to achieve the old world gentlemanly manners. I doubt if you’re you capable of them, gauging from the way you express yourself. Highly mannered? Hmmm, what are you? A flamenco dancer? Oye, bailete si quieras! Si vous voudrais parler sur le vieux monde, parlez en autre langue, s’il vous plait,…specialement en langue Europeen. You know, any reference to the so called “Old World school” is so pretentious in this day and age. If you don’t see the preposterousness of this notion, well a school is indeed what you require.

    That’s all…!

  43. samcheong-dong said,

    July 13, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    GI/Irames:

    You’ve made your never ending Imelda-bashing a career in this blog. Your hatred/negativity/bitchiness is just a big turn-off. Bitchiness is not to be mistaken for being witty and articulate. Your obscurity and pent-up anger in life is just a reflection of your never ending tirades against Madame Imelda Marcos. We’ve read your hatred towards her more than once. Its sickening of you to harp on and on without end. People will always have their own opinions irregardless if you post 10000 negative Imelda postings here. A highly mannered gentleman from the old world school would not fit your character. Your simply a negative energy. Someone to be ignored.

    Zippo, were more interested in your sex life than GI’s Imelda bashing…please fill us in. what gives…

  44. Irames said,

    July 13, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Charlie:” isn’t this cecile villacorta a friend of the nicolas-lewis’?”

    It’s possible. New York after all is a small town where most Filipinos seek out each other if only to compare how far they’ve gone ahead of the pack. Methinks the reason why Villacorta racked up such outstanding figures in sales is because of customers like Loida – if ever. I mean, with money such as Loida has, most of the really rich New Yorkers would not bother to come to a place like Saks Fifth for jewelry where they would be exposed to the hoi-polloi and (gasp!) possible crime. They’d deal with a brand’s sales staff directly in the individual flagship stores or with their own personal shoppers. But Loida being less into this milieu than, say Josie N., another Filipina who made it big in the Big Apple, would be content to have an insider in a Saks, which is not even in the league of Barneys and Bergdorf’s. You know what I mean? But who knows? I never saw Loida parading around in haute joaillerie when I’m in New York…

  45. Irames said,

    July 13, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    GI: “Well, that’s because those Pearly Gates ain’t gonna up for her any time soon. BWAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!”

    Besides, if you go with Sarte and the Existentialists, HELL is on earth. So the more she lives, the more she suffers. Didn’t she admit in past interviews that she has a problem sleeping (and it shows in those hollow eyes BTW despite the oh-so-passe smudged eye shadows) ever since her first lady days? What does that tell you? Maybe in her solitary time, away from self-celebrating soirees, shed of the butterfly sleeves and the flashy jewelry, rid of the sychopants and enablers, her guilt in all the evil that she has done to our people would not allow repose. As Daniel J. Boorstin said, “As you made your bed, you must lie in it”. In Imelda’s case, she’s on her bed but she has not been allowed a peaceful wink of sleep. “No rest for the Wicked”, according to the another Existentialist, this time from the Old Book, Isaiah (48:22 and 57:20-21).

    Contrast this to Cory – as some posters here have naughtily drawn up comparisons between the two ladies’ (oops, one bitch, one lady) present physical states. I have to point out to you that Cory always comes across with a beatifically peaceful and smiling visage (in photos at least) despite being ravaged by her illness while Imelda projects the grimace of an obvious suffering soul – and I’m not talking alleged financial hardships here . No tons of make-up can mask her inner ugliness.

    The concept of Hell On Earth certainly seem to be at work here. Ah, but this is just my own personal take, from a distance. And maybe this is imbued by my wish for a more immediate karma or justice to happen to one who so deserves the worst damnation. Damn her indeed!

  46. isabella said,

    July 13, 2009 at 10:35 am

    I am amazed how some bloggers here could easily make conclusions on the persona of an individual based on 2 or 3 comments sent by us! Isn’t it just so judgemental and so mababaw? How could you measure a person based on his/her comments in this blog site? Just asking!

  47. zippo said,

    July 13, 2009 at 10:13 am

    Irames,

    My graciousness was not because I was “under seige” (I wasn’t — not by you or anyone else in this blog; in fact my feeling was one of bemusement). Ask Toto, I am known to be a very gracious person to people who may or may not have the same opinions as that of myself. I believe it’s called breeding.

    Anyway, no I am not a part of the Cruz clan although they are, admittedly, good friends of the family.

    You must be referring to Louie or Joel (although it was Louie who did live in Germany for a time).

    The Cruzes have been a well off family since before the Marcoses. Ambassador Cruz was President Magsaysay’s Press Secretary and his father, Judge Roman Cruz, Sr., interestingly enough, was the judge who convicted a certain law student by the name of Ferdinand Marcos of murdering Assemblyman Julio Nalundasan in the 1930s (Cruz’s decision was unanimously overturned by the Supreme Court after the law student Marcos defended himself in the Supreme Court).

    Z 🙂

  48. charlie said,

    July 13, 2009 at 8:32 am

    isn’t this cecile villacorta a friend of the nicolas-lewis’?

  49. Garganta Inflamada said,

    July 13, 2009 at 6:05 am

    steve ting wrote:

    these two are the perfect remedy for your fans who are either constipated or suffering from excessive volumes of flatulence…they are low lives much much much lower than that of those they highly criticise.

    ****************************

    Speaking from personal experience, steve? LOL!! LOL!!

  50. jeremiah said,

    July 13, 2009 at 2:09 am

    we all have shown our true colors. G.I. and Irames, you are the reason why i visit this blog.

  51. steve ting said,

    July 12, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    ..aunt bessie the cow passing toe-curling compliments to aunt bertha the pig is enough to make me sick! pass me the next sick bowl please!!!..these two are the perfect remedy for your fans who are either constipated or suffering from excessive volumes of flatulence…they are low lives much much much lower than that of those they highly criticise.

  52. Garganta Inflamada said,

    July 12, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    Ooops…Toto, can you get a self-editing feature on this? Left out… “open” in above post. well, hopefully, the reader is literate enuf to fill that in…

    Anyway, ah, Cecile Villacorta, who now joins that other convicted klepta Theresa Tambunting in the ranks of the Roguettes Gallery of Filipina-New Yorkers convicted of filching lucre and shaking down their employers, while already earning, if one is to believe the reports, some $400,000 and $140,000 in their respective jobs. Strangely, Tambunting had a bigger haul than Cecile. I wonder if, when they get out, they can give each other as references? 🙂

    http://myopiclunacy.com/2009/05/12/you-cant-make-these-up

    But of course, they seem to have learned from the grandest one time ex-New Yorker klepto of them all…who of course didn’t bother with small-time baubles (well, she started with the earrings of one Mrs. Jacinto) but with prime Manhattan properties. Trouble is Ma’am was in another league, she already had a nation’s treasury backing her up to pay for high-prized (il)legal counsel. Ayan and mga dreams ng small-time Filipina career women in New York emulating no doubt the shining example set by Our Lady of the nag-vavagang Vulgari Bijoux: steal as much as you can because sometimes you can get away with it!! well, sometimes, b*tches… 🙂

    They must’ve all taken the Bernie Madoff Meconomics 101 course. I guess Bernie can again conduct those classes in jail with Cecile and Theresa as his assistants. Calling Imierda…the ‘in-house’ master class in Sing-Sing for kleptos is starting without you, sweetie!!

  53. Garganta Inflamada said,

    July 12, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    zippo wrote:

    May you have many more true, good, beautiful, and above all, happy years ahead of you. Whatever other people may think, you definitely deserve it.

    **********************************

    Well, that’s because those Pearly Gates ain’t gonna up for her any time soon. BWAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!! 🙂 🙂

  54. Irames said,

    July 12, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Zippo: “Kung ang ikasasaya mo ay sa iyo ang huling salita, sya naway matuwa ka sa pasya ko hindi na kita sagutin”.

    Salamat naman…for that gesture of graciousness (under siege). Z, With the name-dropping of your Ninang and those Juan Luna paintings, I wonder if you belong to the Ambassador Cruz clan. I casually met one of his sons – the gay one – in Germany in the 80s and with whom I had a re-encounter in a Manhattan pied-a-terre during a party.In the course of our cocktail banter, he suddenly offered to sell me a Juan Luna – with some kind of urgency I detected – at a price that was surprisingly affordable (for me AT THAT TIME anyway). So I made an appointment to see it in their UES flat. But as I was going home, the host approached to tell me the background of the Cruz family and how they have availed of the spoils of the Marcos regime. Needless to say, I didn’t push through with even the viewing of that painting. Would you hang a Nazi loot of a Rembrandt if you could?

    GI: “Where’s Ms. Vreeland when you need her?” Haha. The editor-character of “The Devil Wears Prada” would suffice…”That’s all.”

  55. Garganta Inflamada said,

    July 12, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Just a quick rejoinder to samcheong-bong-long-dong…yes, I noticed that Irames and I use a lot of the same/similar terminology/syntax/construction. Well, why should decent schooling, the will to express one’s thoughts and convictions as articulately and logically as possible due to self-improvement and widespread reading be limited to just one or two people?

    Similarly, why should the branding of a cheat, a thief, a cad, a user, again be limited to just one or two individuals? Are you so used to an environment where, like Isabella, you just accept things handed to you, laugh it off, NOT LEARN from what has been perpetrated on you, and…to quote Irames…to continue to be in self-denial?

    Sad to inform you that there are still people around who can tell right from wrong, honesty from chicanery, self-respect from self-debasement and who can at least proclaim that there’s rot from Tacloban and you will hear about it. But if you choose to bury your head in the sand, then that, sir, is truly your own folly.

    If, even from the posts on this thread alone, you cannot discern that some people will NOT accept the continued foolish idolatry and lies of a profligate fraud…(and I grant Imierda her 80th birthday bash…what is that compared to the hundreds of millions of pesos and dollars disingenously and dishonestly taken, pocketed AND squandered…and perhaps that evening was paid for by the still panting sycophants), then I suggest you go out into the real world a little more.

    If the whole discussion has gotten a little intense, then so be it. Perhaps if more people had spoken up in the late 70s or early 80s, then maybe the disease could’ve been cauterized much earlier. But we can’t go back, can we? We can only learn from the mistakes of the past.

    Where’s Ms. Vreeland when you need her?

    GI

  56. zippo said,

    July 12, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    Irames,

    Such bile and venom. Ingat lang….. ang puso mo. I actually could feel your blood boil and your nostrils flare while reading your posts 😀 😀 😀

    Kung ang ikasasaya mo ay sa iyo ang huling salita, sya naway matuwa ka sa pasya ko hindi na kita sagutin.

    =============

    And throughout all the hubbub in this particular thread, I had forgotten to greet the one person ultimately responsible for the passionate discussion in this thread. I’m sure she’s reading all the comments here with glee. A belated Happy Birthday Ninang. May you have many more true, good, beautiful, and above all, happy years ahead of you. Whatever other people may think, you definitely deserve it.

    Z 🙂

  57. zippo said,

    July 12, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    cheers tibo!

    Z 🙂

  58. Irames said,

    July 12, 2009 at 11:45 am

    What was I saying?! I mean foibles instead of “quibbles”.

  59. Irames said,

    July 12, 2009 at 11:00 am

    Gracias, Garganta Inflamada. The feeling is mutual and I’ve been feeling it since I chanced upon your posts in this blog. I actually often dropped in just to indulge in the pleasure of reading what you have to say about Toto’s sponsored topics on the quibbles of being rich, (in)famous and powerful. And you’re always on the mark, haughtily rendering comments in that witty style of yours.

    To go along with Bidang but to segue into the inexplicable when it comes to the delusional nature and the utter lack of of moral insight of SOME, of our countrymen faced with the glaring truth of what they have done, I am still scratching my head regarding the stance of one Cecile Vilacorta, who despite acknowledging of her manipulation of the point-of-sale protocol at SAKs Fifth in New York to benefit herself by way of giving unauthorized rebates to her customers, now she’s the one feeling AGGRIEVED! Now she wants to sue the company that she has been found guilty to have funneled money from. Shades of Imelda, don’t you think?

    Read it here: http://www.nypost.com/seven/06192008/news/regionalnews/1m_icebreaker_116151.htm
    http://racked.com/tags/saks-fifth-avenue
    http://www.nypost.com/seven/07062009/news/regionalnews/manhattan/scheming_saks_saleswoman_gets_community__177898.htm

    Or Google for more coverage.

  60. bidang said,

    July 12, 2009 at 1:06 am

    I started writing something to stop you all from talking about this Ilocano/Visayan families….but I decided, why waste my time.
    Next topic please.

  61. zippo said,

    July 12, 2009 at 1:02 am

    Irames,

    “Now to zero in – nay, zippo in – on your painting sale, you knew where the money paid for it came from; despite it you hungrily reaped the fruits of the Marcos pillage. Your family is therefore at least guilty of NOT POSSESSING MORAL RECTITUDE! Capiche and jeez?!!”

    When my parents and grandparents sold the painting to Mrs. Marcos, they were not aware where the money came from. The painting is now in the National Museum.

    But if you still insist in calling them accessories to a crime…. well, my mother is still alive. I welcome you to sue her for the crime, Irames. Doubt it will prosper though.

    Z : -D

  62. tibo said,

    July 11, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    i’ll share that laugh with you Z! Yes, we all visit this blog for Toto’s wonderful and informative posts. He’s kind enough to accomodate our comments. And these comments keep me coming back! GI, Z, PERI, et al. Maybe i’d react if i found a dead rat in this jewelry box with my family name written all over, but the sparkling gems in Toto’s box are worth the trouble. Isabella’s spacey bauble and Larry’s disco balls included!

  63. July 11, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    is the hullabaloo over and done? and the winner is: Irames – his arguments

    are rational, and his tirades connote one of erudition and profundity. i can

    sense an English matriculation. what did he read in school – PP&E?

    rafhorm is sharp as a tack as well. well honed, these two chaps.

  64. Irames said,

    July 11, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    In my haste to post a reply, mistakes in typing were made, to wit:

    “…to your uneasy grasp of the language.”

    “If you think otherwise, then go read a book instead”

  65. Irames said,

    July 11, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    “But please don’t invite that criminal Imelda in here.”

    Are we speaking the same language here or did I presume too much that you, Zippo, understands English? When does a suggestion become a dictate or an absolute command? The “please” inserted in the sentence should tell you that it was simply a notion put forward, with Toto, the blog’s owner, having the final say. Again, capiche?

    I guess your inability to understand the moral predicament that you and your family are now served up here in this very blog not only by me but others who have reacted to the callous and nonchalant attitude you imbued your account of the transactional dealings with Imelda can easily be traced to you uneasy grasp of the language. It does not however absolve your continuous disregard for the truth of what she and Marcos have wrecked on our country much less explain the steadfastness of your defending them. I can only surmise a person so utterly morally corrupt and beyond redemption (and that’s what’s wrong with the Philippines: a lot of people of your kind). In which case, please…SPARE ME/US enough of your pathological musings!

    samcheong-dong, you think that refuting or drawing to an exchange of opinion people who come to a blog such as this is irritating and negative. Well, let me remind you if this very basic nature of an online blog being out in the public domain (the World Wide Web) means that it is absolutely impossible to have a homogeneous participation of readers and their opinions. If you think otherwise, then go a book instead. And don’t even claim to be a cyber detective (“The style of writing is a dead- giveaway). DingDong, you’ve just shown your laughable capacity to divine.

    Thanks, Toto, for confirming that the possibility of myself and GI to be one and the same person is practically nil. The only thing we share in common is that WE DON’T SUFFER FOOLS EASILY AND THAT WE CALL A SPADE A SPADE, specially the reevaluation of Imelda Marcos. At least, that’s what I think GI and I do. But if I misspoke, I sit corrected 😉

  66. Garganta Inflamada said,

    July 11, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Please, there is only ONE Garganta Inflamada!!

    I am NOT Irames. Why would I bother expending double the energy to essentially harp on the same points? I have better things to do — and the subject matter isn’t worthy of that much of my time.

    But I accept the comparison as a very high compliment. It gladdens my heart that I have been mistaken for a very erudite, articulate, literate and witty poster. Thank you, samcheong-bong-long-dong…and kudos to Irames.

    Great minds think alike. 🙂

    BTW, veering slightly OT, what has happened to Isla? Larry, kindly give him my regards. Tell him he is missed here…and I wish him a speedy recovery. He can PM me and get my email from senor Toto.

    GI

  67. samcheong-dong said,

    July 11, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Im still convinced it him….He/She can just tell a friend from another location to copy and paste what he wrote down…..the similarity/style/hatred are much too similar

  68. July 11, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    No, Irames and Garganta Inflamada are not one and the same person; they have different IPs and different GPS locations. 🙂

    Unless they are capable of bilocation, of course… 😛

  69. samcheong-dong said,

    July 11, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Irames and Garganta Inflammada are one person.. The style of writing is a dead-giveaway. ….I only log on to this blog once in a blue moon now because of the irritating nature/ negativity of Garganta Inflammada/Irames et al..

  70. samcheong-dong said,

    July 11, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    Irames and Garganta Inflamada are one person… The style of writing is a dead-giveaway. ….I only log on to this blog once in a blue moon now because of the irritating nature/ negativity of Garganta Inflammada/Irames et al..

  71. Irames said,

    July 11, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    “why,I always like to enjoy all the careless wispers about Filipino society, juicy goings-on…”

    Umm, Isabella, this is not the Hayden Kho thread…;)

  72. Irames said,

    July 11, 2009 at 11:05 am

    I should have simplified my argument to the Khazak adage: TELL ME WHO YOUR FRIENDS ARE AND I’LL TAKE MY LEAVE WHEN IT SUITS ME 😉

  73. Irames said,

    July 11, 2009 at 11:00 am

    Zippo,

    Your examples you’ve come up with are rather tenuous and don’t exactly counter the gist of my statement. You have to further clarify the situations you cited but allow me to do it for you to calibrate your moral compass: accepting coffee from a labor exploiter without the knowledge of his deeds does not qualify as a disregard nor an acceptance of that person’s crime. It is however morally wrong if KNOWING about that person you still abet and covet his friendship or social contact. Then you become an ENABLER, which is to say an accessory.

    The same goes for the person who attends a party KNOWING that the expenditure of the affair came at the detriment and suffering of the nation at large. How can you possibly even put in anything in your mouth without a modicum of GUILT in your palate?

    Now to zero in – nay, zippo in – on your painting sale, you knew where the money paid for it came from; despite it you hungrily reaped the fruits of the Marcos pillage. Your family is therefore at least guilty of NOT POSSESSING MORAL RECTITUDE! Capiche and jeez?!!

  74. zippo said,

    July 11, 2009 at 1:28 am

    Irames,

    You wrote “Toto alone can impose of x x x what’s put out and discussed in the blog.” And to end that post, you wrote, “But please don’t invite that criminal Imelda in here.”

    O…. I thought Toto alone can impose what’s put in this blog. Why then do YOU impose, nay, dictate? I thought you also hated dictators?!!!

    And “criminal”? A criminal is a person who has, in a court of law, been convicted, with finality, of having committed a crime. Last I checked, all she’s had are acquittals. Well……. I guess her “crime” is vexing her haters and detractors for not fading away into oblivion.

    Z 🙂

  75. rafhorm said,

    July 11, 2009 at 12:55 am

    “Deal,” in that instance obviously meant a substantial financial transaction. Your flawed and horrifically poor rebuttal (surely Irames’ observations have not reduced you to weak and adolescent nitpicking) — going into the shillings and cents of it if you will — only reveals someone desperate to extricate himself from a rather embarrassing and indefensible position. I am sure you can concoct a more imaginative response.

    That said, there’s that very funny diminutive chap in Pyongyang whose purses you can trowel for coin the next time the proclivities for hocking the family heirlooms to the arbitrary thief-dictator-comedian start to itch. This will prevent you from hair-pulling and kicking and elbowing with the gaggle of hangers-on and sycophants who, in the decades, have fattened their bank accounts and solved their insolvencies by pandering to the whims of that dangerously silly twit from Leyte.

    I’ve enjoyed the moderately easy tete-a-tete, thus far, Isabella. I find it entertaining. But I suppose we shall have to leave you prattling in your sandbox of petty gossip from which you derive your jollies. We don’t want you to hurt yourself. A matter of respect and safety. At least that’s my opinion.

  76. danrex said,

    July 10, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    With all this “rehabilitation” of the Marcoses going on, I’d love to see the Arroyos throwing a grand party ten years later and their reputation getting “rehabilitated” …

    You see, they are now only living their lives well…

  77. isabella said,

    July 10, 2009 at 11:17 am

    why,I always like to enjoy all the careless wispers about Filipino society, juicy goings-on and what nots. But it is not for me to judge,to be scathing nor be mad to anybody here co-bloggers,firstly we don’t know each other,although we have some clues who we really are. But I think we must enjoy this blog,and keep to Toto’s goal and format.
    So let us be more civil and respectful to each others opinions.

  78. Irames said,

    July 10, 2009 at 9:31 am

    Larry,

    “After working for PDI for 17 years, I finally land FRONT PAGE”.

    I guess felicitations are in order (to lighten up somehow). However, I just don’t understand how the editor/editorial board could have propped you up in the front page and, a day later, counters your very fawning, exceedingly bakla reportage in a rather searingly sharp rebuke of an editorial the next day. My take is that the paper set you up for you to fall flat on your face. But why?Are you at odds with those folks? Read this portion in that editorial: “We have seen, from the way people gushed over Imelda at her recent birthday celebration, that many of them have forgotten what happened during the Conjugal Dictatorship. When shall we end our state of denial? When shall we stop idolizing those who have wronged and betrayed us and regain our sense of right and wrong and exact justice from those who have committed crimes against the nation?” Don’t tell me it wasn’t directed at your glowing account and endorsement of that soiree. A major swat of their prized bakla journalist, if you ask me. The bad part of this whole affair, the flak that you yourself referred to, is that people who read those two pieces you wrote on Imelda’s big day would go away with the impression that all baklas are prone to brown nose anyone just to secure some high society acceptance. Bakla or not what you did is definitely an example of pink journalism, when you did not only report the story but became part of the story. Don’t you think that there’s only enough Maurice Arcache in PDI? I actually don’t expect a self-heralded journalism graduate to take this tacky tack. But that’s just me.

    Oh, those who are trying to shape the style and tone of this blog (attention Onsiako-Lopez), first of all, that’s the sole responsibility of the blog owner. Toto alone can impose the limits of how posters and respondents can contribute to what’s put out and discussed in the blog. In the massive online universe, topics become the public domain and only through filters can one possibly control any input. Hence, it simply ignorance on anybody’s part to try to call for any semblance of ideal order and demeanor in a blog that tries to attract readers. in this aspect, the www is like the wild wild west and good luck to those who don’t duck when some shooting break out! For that matter, don’t start fires in them there hills because it’s hard to put them out 😉

    So you want this to be a site for socializing? Pass on the scones and cucumber sandwiches and let me have another sip of my Trabzon black tea. But please don’t invite that criminal Imelda in here.

  79. zippo said,

    July 10, 2009 at 5:50 am

    tibo,

    re Post no. 40, (Gasp) YOU did all THAT?!!!! 😀

    Irames,

    You said, “Anybody who deals with THIEVES is ergo facto sunt a thief as well.” So you mean to say that if someone accepts a cup of coffee from an hacendero whose family made its money from the backs of cheap labor, then that person is also an oppressor? And someone who attends a party paid by a person who cheats on his taxes is likewise a cheat? While I don’t understand the logic of how you came to this conclusion, thank you for calling my parents and grandparents criminals. And how are yours? And you?

    Larry,

    You said, “LIGHTEN UP, BLOGGERS we are here to socialize in the most civilized manner” Amen to that.

    Z

  80. zippo said,

    July 10, 2009 at 5:22 am

    rafhorm,

    here’s snickering at you kid

    Z 😀

  81. Garganta Inflamada said,

    July 10, 2009 at 5:18 am

    You guys, etc., can’t just laugh off the unpaid crimes of 21 years. And actually, the more people tell me to lighten up on criminals who get off scot free, the MORE impassioned I get that her/their CRIMES NOT BE FORGOTTEN. How really stupid some of you can be? Laugh off Hitler? Laugh off the Duvaliers? Idi Amin? Saddam Hussein? Bernie Madoff? Look at the lives he ruined; but better late than never. Yeah, I could laugh at Leona Helmsley but that b*tch went to jail and did some time. This Pinay bandit biotch hasn’t and until my last breath, I will NOT LET people within earshot forget it. I at least owe that to posterity.

    “Fooled me once, shame on you. Fooled me twice, shame on me.” And I think a number of you fit in that “hindi na tuto – talagang tanga” category. Best of luck to those. Kaya naman, look at your biggest exports — expat laborers and domestics (some of whom are teachers) because they can’t find decent work in a country ravaged by the likes of those two vampires and the circles who sucked and suck with them.

    Enjoy your co-dependent relationship with Imierda & company while she continues to rob you blind of your little self-respect.

  82. larry leviste said,

    July 10, 2009 at 4:43 am

    I HAVE SPARKED A FORREST FIRE.

    The hills are alive. The hills have EYES.

    I have gotten 50 percent flak and 50 percent fluke for that story I wrote for the front page.

    After working for PDI for 17 years, I finally land FRONT PAGE curiously by unwittingly doing a BAKLA reportage of the sights, sounds and fury of Imelda’s party.

    I’m MADE.

    But infamy, controversy and intrigue preceed me. LOL till it hurts.

    LIGHTEN UP, BLOGGERS we are here to socialize in the most civilized manner SANA.

    But the blood boiling ONLY proves one thing, WE ARE FIERCE FILIPINOS FIRST.

    Mahubay tayong lahat.

  83. rafhorm said,

    July 10, 2009 at 2:42 am

    From Zippo the comedian…

    “…despite her tale that she is “impoverished, is able to live in a duplex Penthouse at One McKinley overlooking the Manila Golf Club and the Polo Club, and is able to give out and attend lavish parties…
    …NOBODY can argue that IMELDA IS LIVING HER LIFE WELL. ”

    “While there was a time in my life that I was easily blinded by money, I am a different person now and so am not easily blinded……

    WELL DONE, Zippo. You’re a right laugh at the pub.

  84. Irames said,

    July 9, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    Isabella,
    Are you ON something?…you sound either on some wonderful medication (do share) or you’re one of those spaced out post-New Ageist, as most who subscribe to “The Secret” and “The Law of Attraction” tend to be?

    Honey, come down to earth and deal with earthly problems. Look around you…empathize…sympathize…just don’t dwell in your coco’s nest! 🙂

  85. Garganta Inflamada said,

    July 9, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    Yrigoyen wrote:

    Zero breeding this GI.

    ****************************

    Excuse me? What has ‘breeding’ got to do with the subject? We are talking about someone who was a partner in raping the Philippines for 21 years…and here you are talking about ‘breeding’ of someone you DON’T know? Obviously your priorities are vastly misplaced. ***rolls eyes***

  86. Irames said,

    July 9, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    Z,
    I said, “But I’m judging viscerally from what I gathered from your last post.” VISCERALLY…exactly because I don’t know you personally. My bringing up your moral compass was in reaction to your FLAUNTING of having sold to Imelda Marcos at “FAIR MARKET VALUE” one of your Juan Luna paintings, despite the universally prevalent knowledge at that time that the financial resources of the Marcoses came from pillaging of the Philippine economy and industries. In a subtle way, I am putting forward the fact that even in that one transactional instance, you and your family were wittingly or unwittingly accessory to a crime, tainted by the receipt of dirty money. Anybody who deals with THIEVES is ergo facto sunt a thief as well.

    I’m glad that we can only rub electronic elbows in an online blog 😉

  87. dee said,

    July 9, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Z,

    i think the reason she’s still around and has the nerve to flaunt her ill-gotten wealth (while claiming she’s poor) is this: makapal ang mukha niya at wala siyang konsensya.

    i am ready to forgive. but let me just ask this: how can you sincerely forgive someone who remains unrepentant for all the wrongs she committed during the dictatorship? more so when a relative had to leave the country in a hurry and live in exile because staying here during those troubled times meant signing your own death warrant?

  88. tibo said,

    July 9, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    i’ll steal, pillage, rule and hoodwink you all of ur taxes, livelihood and money. Then i’ll buy ur jewelry, land and paintings at fair market value. Fair tayo ha! I do it all for the poor, the artists, and the true, good and beautiful (specially that gullible lady who thinks its my secret and the law of attraction). I’ll throw a party for all these sycophants, my bag ladies and social climbing scum who are so shallow and easy to impress with my royal bearing and largesse. Such a spineless lot, with incredibly fleeting morals! Have more cake! Lionize me! I’m having the last laugh! I have won fools! AGAIN!

  89. n ongsiako-lopez said,

    July 9, 2009 at 10:38 am

    What I shall say might incense a few, Im not bothered. This blog was started by Toto as a nostalgia during the Marcos era which is why the names Imelda Marcos, Imelda Cojuangco are ubiquitous. Most posts and topics are meant to be trite and trivial and this is how it’s supposed to be, talking about jewellery, family history a little bit of rumour and gossip here and there however lately it has monopolised by too many “clever” people who are taking themselves far too seriously and responding harshly (and with hostility I must say) to others which is why I have gotten fed up logging on to this blog. These people are the ones who wake up in the middle of their fertile dreams to switch on to their laptops and check recent posts ready to launch an attack. Yes, we all know You are witty, we all know you ARE clever but please spare us, I’m sure I’m not alone and fed up with YOU. This blog is meant to be silly, juicy and light-hearted. It’s like ladies meeting up for lunch. To those who have too much anger and strong opinions against Imelda, cronies, start your own blog but please spare us!!

  90. isabella said,

    July 9, 2009 at 8:50 am

    huh!huh!HUh! why the posts sound so bitter,and so personal? I hope we must try to be more respectful,and loving to each other!

  91. zippo said,

    July 9, 2009 at 8:43 am

    ok g.i. although i did feel alluded to.

    cheers!

    z 🙂

    Irames,

    Hmmmm….. judging my morality? We are 2 people who don’t know each other and who don’t see eye to eye with respect to this particular issue. How easily you judge people.

  92. fatima153 said,

    July 9, 2009 at 7:13 am

    The Philippines deserves another conjugal dictatorship, it’s just like South American banana republics. It’s a familiocracy not a democracy. During the Marcos regime, foreigners called it “20 million cowards’ (pop. that time). Stonehill was right when he said “Show me a Filipino and I’ll tell you his price”.

  93. Garganta Inflamada said,

    July 9, 2009 at 5:44 am

    well, see, zippo — that post was actually directed to someone else — not you. Our dear moderator changed it as a general post. So it was out of my hands.

    GI

  94. rafhorm said,

    July 9, 2009 at 3:40 am

    The Marcoses sodomised this country with the ferocity of a Makita powerdrill on overdrive and paved the way for the rest of the Gommorahns to attempt the same carnage. Obviously you chose to gloss over the below-mentioned portion mesmerised as you are by “LIVING WELL” at all costs.

    “The Marcos dictatorship debased the entire fabric of Philippine society: it plundered the economy; committed 3,257 extrajudicial killings, tortured 35,000, jailed 70,000 and caused the disappearance of 737 people; corrupted the entire political system, including the courts; suppressed freedom of the press and other freedoms and rights; committed abuses against indigenous peoples; and even rewrote history to suit its ends.”

  95. Yrigoyen said,

    July 9, 2009 at 1:17 am

    Thank you Zippo.

    All this harsh and sharp words. Such conviction. Zero breeding this GI.

  96. onlysecond said,

    July 9, 2009 at 12:35 am

    To Zippo:

    I agree about respectful disagreement. Just some points though. Have you ever wondered where Imelda got the money to buy the painting? And all her other jewels & trinkets & shoes?

    As for the Marcoses being good for the country; didn’t their actions during their last years in Malacanang undo so much of the good they’d done earlier?

    And when you mentioned your parents & grandparents not dealing with the Marcos government, I have to wonder if that’s a good thing, because your family’s lack of interaction with that regime could account for why you don’t feel as strongly against them about some of the commenters here.

  97. Irames said,

    July 8, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    Z,

    Your moral compass obviously points south. But I’m judging viscerally from what I gathered from your last post. I don’t know how much Mrs. Marcos paid for the purchase one of your family’s Juan Luna painting but you seemed to be convinced that you made a good deal with her in that one instance.”A FAIR MARKET VALUE”. Well, have you ever thought where that money came from, how the wife of a president of a Third World country could be in a position to include in her shopping lists anything her eyes laid on? Don’t tell us that at the time of the transaction involving the painting, you had no idea that she nor Marcos did not come from money and that even with the salaries accorded his various elected positions would they have been able to come up with enough resources to acquire everything they coveted. And they were indiscriminately splurging as everyone in the country at that time knew.

    Not to take up the cudgel for GI but this is exactly what she was referring to, that people refuse to acknowledge the wrongness of what was happening then (during the Marcos era) but even until now would rather perpetrate the evil that has been inflicted on the country by the” Conjugal Dictatorship”. On top of it, you and your ilk – rather than seeing things clearly in retrospect now that all the proofs of misdeeds by the Marcos couple are there for perusal – would rather perpetuate their own mistaken convictions so as not to admit to themselves that a mistake in judgement has been committed.

    Is it pride or foolhardiness? Or, worse, incorrigibility?

    .

  98. zippo said,

    July 8, 2009 at 10:16 am

    Dear GI,

    (1) “This time, speak for yourselves.”

    I’ve always spoken for myself.

    (2) “Cease generalizing that the rest of the Filipino population are like you”

    I have never generalized that the rest of the Filipino population is like myself. I am my own man and I respect people whether they think like me or differently from me. I just don’t like people who do not respect people with different views from theirs. Also, since we are in the topic of generalizations, I just also hope that you do not generalize or think that the rest of the Filipino population think like you.

    (3) “and accept the crap that the likes of the Marcoses pulled on the people.”

    And who appointed you judge to condemn the Marcoses? I happen to think they did good for my country — but don’t anyone ever call me as unpatriotic for liking them. At the age of 19, I voted for Marcos for President in 1986 and I will forever be proud of that decision because I have always thought that he was a better leader than Mrs. Aquino (it was an election to choose the better President and not an election to choose the better Catholic). Please know that I happen to love this country. I graduated with honors and had a green card but I chose to give up my green card and work here so I can do my bit to help this country. It must be noted too that my parents and grandparents never dealt with the government during the time of the Marcoses. In fact, as far as I know, the only economic deal we had with them when they were in power was when Mrs. Marcos offered to purchase one of our Juan Luna paintings AND SHE PAID FAIR MARKET VALUE FOR IT.

    (4) “I think the comments on this thread so far show that your fawning views are limited to the few.”

    As I stated in no. 1 above, I respect other people’s views. But I have a hard time accepting people who have views different from mine IF THEY INSIST THAT PEOPLE THINK LIKE THEM OR IF THEY VILIFY PEOPLE WHO DON’T THINK LIKE THEM. And to paraphrase you, I just hope people cease to generalize that the rest of the population are like themselves.

    (5) “If you wish to be blinded and fleeced by a wolf in sheep’s ternos, then limit it to yourselves.”

    While there was a time in my life that I was easily blinded by money, I am a different person now and so am not easily blinded by anything except, perhaps, by the occasional “lambing” of my kids. My admiration of Mrs. Marcos stems from the fact that this woman is still around after all the sh*t thrown at her.

    (6) “Other people with more self-esteem and sure of their self-worth don’t fall so easily for the shallowness of the situation.”

    And who are you to generalize that people who don’t believe in the things you do suffer from lack of self-esteem and/or self-worth. It would seem that you only respect people if they believe in the things you believe in. Isn’t that quite dictatorial on your part? And I thought you hated dictators?

    (7) “They don’t really need the parties and exploits of a ‘good time’ x x x to feel good about themselves.”

    I, like you, don’t need parties to make me feel good about myself. My life, my job, my career, and, most especially, my kids make me feel good about myself. Also, do note that I wasn’t invited to THAT party (although my mother was — she didn’t go) but I was happy when I read Larry’s review of the party.

    (8) “— which by the way, were paid for by a poor people”

    Proof please. Since you state that you against generalizations, I’m pretty sure that you are likewise against sweeping statements which offer no concrete basis in fact to back it up.

    (9) “Apparently, you are all caught up in the artifice of the moment.”

    Hmmmmm…… another generalization from someone who says he abhors generalizations?

    (10) “Get yourselves a working moral compass instead; they’ll serve you better in life… maybe.”

    This is what gets my goat GI. You talk to me — someone you don’t know and someone you know nothing about who just happens to think and view Mrs. Marcos differently from you — and suddenly I am a person who lacks morals?!!! Who appointed you my judge, GI? Now I can generalize about you and say things against you just because you don’t think the same way I do in this particular issue. However, I won’t. Because I happen to have, what I believe, is the moral compass to respect your different views about the Marcoses since I was taught to respect people who may have different views than mine.

    Remember, I respect your views on the Marcoses BUT I take offense to you calling me as a person: (a) who generalizes, (b) who has low self-esteem, (c) who does not know my self-worth, (d) who is shallow, and (e) who has no moral compass.

    A little respect for people who don’t share your views, please GI. I’m pretty sure it will serve you better in life.

    With peace and forgiveness,

    Z 🙂

  99. isabella said,

    July 8, 2009 at 9:18 am

    sunny,
    kudos for the enlightenment. I am a believer of the concept of “The secret” and “The Law of Attraction”. I hope we all embrace these concepts rather than attacking IRM,and be forward-thinking and more life-affirming!
    Let’s be more loving,understanding,and forgiving!

  100. anonymous said,

    July 8, 2009 at 8:40 am

    i am neither for the marcoses or for the aquinos. i am one of the many filipinos who belong to the category of “bawal magkasakit”. it pains the hell out of me that Cory Aquino gets to have dozens of novena masses while several thousands of other Filipinos dont even have money to go see a doctor. Ok so she was a former president, national symbol of democracy, kahit ano pa yan kaya lang nakakasuka sa paningin ko. Naiinis ako sa catholic church, bakit si cory lang ang pinagdadasal ninyo? ang daming pilipino na namamatay na walang kalabanlaban dahil sa sakit. mga hunghang kayo! ipagdasal kaya ninyo yun mga taong 5 araw nang pumipila sa pcso na nagbabakasakali na maambunan kahit konti pantustos sa may sakit nilang kamag-anak? Ewan ko, pero ang swapang ng dating. Sa kanila na nga yun pera at power pati ba naman linya sa Diyos monopoly na rin?
    Ok lang naman na ipagdasal nila si Cory pero wag naman palandakan na ganyan, nakakaoffend sa mga mahihirap na pamilya na may cancer rin ang kamag-anak.

  101. periphery said,

    July 8, 2009 at 6:52 am

    leighton said it best…

    “well what do you expect from some people who directly or indirectly benefited from the spoils? ”

    Anyway, I have to admit that I do find her mildly fascinating, in the same way that a carnie bearded lady or an incoherent, borderline insane celebrity is fascinating.

    And yes, she has definitely lived her life well and is continuing to do so. But that’s thanks to all the money that she and her ilk stole from the Filipino people. Ever wonder, for every CCP and Heart Center that was built during the Marcos era, how many CCP and Heart Center equivalents went straight into the pockets of those thieves and murderers?

  102. Garganta Inflamada said,

    July 8, 2009 at 5:29 am

    Might I further add: if La Imierda Romualdez-Marcos is the paragon of a virtuous, beneficent person, then Michael Jackson was indeed the ‘white, pedophile-woman’ he had aspired to be.

    So Imierda got acquitted in xxx number of cases. Well, so did Michael! And we ALL know that Ms. Jackson was NOT GUILTY!! (wink! wink!)

    Funny how Imierda, being the spotlight-hugging whore that she is, never was photographed with a ‘black celebrity’ – not Jackson, not Diana Ross, not Whitney Houston, not Iman, not Johnny Mathis nor, I imagine, for people of her ‘rarefied’ taste — Leontyne Price or even Marian Anderson. Bully for anyone who can find a photo of IRM with a ‘celebrity of color.’ I don’t know that a ‘dark person’ ever got invited to the Republic of the Philippines’ ‘townhouse’ on East 66th Street, NYC, all the time she used it. NADA.

    Big phony that she is, Imierda always sought out the company of tall, white men: van Cliburn, that Israeli violinist, Cristina Ford. I think the ‘darkest’ she ever got was George Hamilton (oh wait, that was a Palm Beach tan and he needed a sugar mommy)..and ok, Muam*ar Kh*dafy. But she wanted oil from him; and he was supposedly ‘***’ anyway — (so, and this is in Larry’s style) NOT ‘blood diamonds’ but ‘*** black gold’ (for all her ***** friends and kabits). She kept the diamonds for herself, blood, canary or paste… as we all know.

    And ‘educated’ people lap it up. Shame on them; shame on them!!

    Beso, beso
    Amuy queso.
    Mabahong queso. 🙂 🙂

  103. Yrigoyen said,

    July 8, 2009 at 4:17 am

    Rumors have it that Dewi Sukarno’s large Colombian Emeralds set in Platinum were lent by Imelda Romualdez-Marcos herself.

  104. Irames said,

    July 7, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    “We have seen, from the way people gushed over Imelda at her recent birthday celebration, that many of them have forgotten what happened during the Conjugal Dictatorship.”

    Yes, the likes of Venia Javellana, Camille Villar, Lulu Hidalgo-Tinio, Teyet Pascual, Sonia Mathay, Fortune Aleta-Ledesma, Baby Jimenez-Arenas, Louie Cruz, Ising Madrigal-Vazquez, Baby Gaborro-Cruz, Techie Cristobal, Pitoy Moreno, etc. Et tu, Larry?

    Larry has designated these denialists as loyalists. All enablers – if you ask me.

  105. Irames said,

    July 7, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    To those who were and are still fascinated by the this creature who, along with her husband and their political cronies, has perpetrated unquantifiable debauchery on the nation during their “reign”, may this piece put some sense into your inner value system. Instead of celebrating her and waxing nostalgic platitudes i her favor, we should all call for the final judicial outcome of the cases against her that would see a closure to inarguably the country’s darkest period. Let her rot in jail for the next 80 years !

    Editorial
    State of denial

    Philippine Daily Inquirer
    First Posted 00:15:00 07/07/200

    THE RECENT ostentatious and extravagant celebration of the 80th birthday of former first lady Imelda Marcos at the Sofitel Hotel at a time when nearly 3 million families are going hungry marks the height of insensitivity for someone who professes that her heart bleeds for the poor. It calls to mind the story of Marie Antoinette of France who, when told that the people had no bread to eat, is reported to have said, “Let them eat cake.”

    The effusive reports about the Madame’s grand celebration point up three things: (1) Many belonging to the old generation seem to have forgotten the economic, social and moral plunder committed by the Conjugal Dictatorship; (2) People belonging to the younger generation seem to have no idea about the dark and evil legacy left by the dictatorship; (3) In the Philippines, crime does pay, and under a climate of impunity, one can gain rehabilitation after a certain period of time.

    During a conference on “The Legacies of the Marcos Dictatorship” 10 years ago at the Ateneo de Manila University, Fr. John J. Carroll, S.J., expressed concern that Filipinos “are in a state of denial with regard to the crimes of the Marcos regime.” He said, “[T]hat willingness to forget these massive crimes against the nation and against individuals reflects the weakness of the ‘common conscience,’ a weak sense of nation and of the common good.”

    We are now seeing the results of that state of denial. Perhaps it’s time the collective memory of the nation was jogged, and people were reminded of the dark legacies of the Conjugal Dictatorship.

    The Marcos dictatorship debased the entire fabric of Philippine society: it plundered the economy; committed 3,257 extrajudicial killings, tortured 35,000, jailed 70,000 and caused the disappearance of 737 people; corrupted the entire political system, including the courts; suppressed freedom of the press and other freedoms and rights; committed abuses against indigenous peoples; and even rewrote history to suit its ends.

    If we have to refresh the memory of the old generation and tell the younger generation about what happened during the Marcos regime, we can start by having them read the Conference Report on “Memory, Truth-telling and the Pursuit of Justice,” published by the Ateneo de Manila University in 2001. As for the plunder of the economy, estimated at $5 billion to $10 billion (Guinness Book of World Records), the best starting point would be former Senate President Jovito R. Salonga’s “Presidential Plunder: The Quest for the Marcos Ill-gotten Wealth.”

    Salonga says that among the techniques by which the Marcoses acquired and safeguarded ill-gotten wealth were:

    1. Creation of monopolies in certain vital industries and placing them under the control of Marcos cronies or associates.

    2. Awarding of loans by government banking or financing institutions to favored individuals, with little or no collateral, at the behest of Marcos or Ms Marcos.

    3. Takeover by Marcos relatives or associates of large public or private enterprises with nominal amounts as consideration.

    4. Direct raid on the public treasury and government financing institutions. For instance, intelligence funds were disbursed for the trips of Ms Marcos.

    5. Issuance of presidential decrees and orders to favor certain individuals and enterprises to enable them to amass wealth for the joint benefit of these individuals and the Marcoses.

    6. Kickbacks and commissions from firms or enterprises doing business in the Philippines.

    7. Use of shell corporations and dummy companies to launder money and invest in real estate in such places as New York, California and Hawaii.

    8. Skimming of foreign aid and other forms of international assistance.

    Days before her birthday celebration, Imelda Marcos appeared in public without her glittering jewels and cried that she was practically penniless. This, from a woman who said in December 1998, “We own practically everything in the Philippines.”

    We have seen, from the way people gushed over Imelda at her recent birthday celebration, that many of them have forgotten what happened during the Conjugal Dictatorship. When shall we end our state of denial? When shall we stop idolizing those who have wronged and betrayed us and regain our sense of right and wrong and exact justice from those who have committed crimes against the nation?

  106. anonymous said,

    July 7, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    as they always say everybody loves a winner. kahit na bulok at sira ulo pa yun winner na yun.

  107. Garganta Inflamada said,

    July 7, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Marcos Loyalists and Friends:

    This time, speak for yourselves. Cease generalizing that the rest of the Filipino population are like you and accept the crap that the likes of the Marcoses pulled on the people. I think the comments on this thread so far show that your fawning views are limited to the few.

    If you wish to be blinded and fleeced by a wolf in sheep’s ternos, then limit it to yourselves. Other people with more self-esteem and sure of their self-worth don’t fall so easily for the shallowness of the situation. They don’t really need the parties and exploits of a ‘good time’ — which by the way, were paid for by a poor people — to feel good about themselves. Apparently, you are all caught up in the artifice of the moment. Get yourselves a working moral compass instead; they’ll serve you better in life… maybe.

  108. sunny said,

    July 7, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    correction *to earn her the title

    And if I may add, IRM was featured recently on TMZ.com

  109. sunny said,

    July 7, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    I was a Marcos hater but not anymore. What I used to find silly answers of Imelda during her interviews after the ouster such as “being surrounded by anything beautiful” has become what the books such as “The Law of Attraction” and “The Secret” are actually teaching now.

    I now understand as to why the country had so many natural calamities during Cory’s time -the Baguio earthquake, the Ormoc flash floods, the Mt. Pinatubo eruption and the lahar flows that followed for years must have come from the negative vibes and vengeful feelings she had during her time. Not to mention the several coup attemps, and brownouts that the nation had to endure during that time to her the title of the Queen of Darkness.

    I totally believe IRM’s prayer for Cory is sincere and not for show as how I would have viewed it before I became an IRM convert. Cory should find it in her heart to forgive as how Catholics are supoosed to do.

    And to the Imelda enemies, as Babblefish said, Mamatay kayo sa inggit!

  110. leighton said,

    July 7, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    to only second:

    well what do you expect from some people who directly or indirectly benefited from the spoils? esp those who partied like crazy in the 70s and the 80s. the so called cocobanana animals. boot lickers of the marcoses.

  111. layna said,

    July 7, 2009 at 6:14 am

    hehe. I believe Madame Marcos was quoted as saying: “I did not have three thousand pairs of shoes, I had one thousand and sixty.”

  112. onlysecond said,

    July 7, 2009 at 1:01 am

    some commenters in this post have proven that even the so-called ‘educated’ part of the population can be blinded by sparkles & sequins, blinded enough to completely forget the horrific crimes attributed to this woman & her husband. and to think many of you people are old enough to have been alive when these crimes were being perpetuated! i am astounded at the deliberateness by which some choose to gloss over the misdeeds of the marcoses. it’s bad enough that some misguided individuals of my generation wear her face on their hipster shirts. no matter how amusing she is or how lavish her parties are, i cannot bring myself to view her even as a form of entertainment, not at the expense of so many lives.

    yes, our culture would’ve languished had she not fiercely fought for it, but ultimately, WE paid the price. not even the greatest painting in the world is worth the blood & tears shed by the desaparecidos & their families.

    my apologies if i’ve offended anyone; i just could never understand the fascination this woman evokes.

  113. isabella said,

    July 6, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    for whatever reasons and beleifs we all have for or againt imelda-we all just can sigh,sigh,sigh.She is really a winner! And as old folks always say: may talagang masuwerte sa buhay at mayroon namamng kinulang ng swerte! But as we glimpse into many ‘maswerte people ‘s lives-we could conclude that they are the ones who created their lucks! It is not what happened to you that matters,but ‘how you reacted’ and responded to that event!A lesser soul could have gone mad and died….but look she still regally stand up and celebrate life! Call me a stupid fool but I give the LAdy- a big applause! She inspires me really!

  114. zippo said,

    July 6, 2009 at 11:32 am

    I, for one, enjoyed reading it Larry.

    Z 🙂

  115. larryleviste said,

    July 6, 2009 at 2:22 am

    WHY thank you ZIP for adding that data to my schmata on IMELDIFICA’S eightieth EARTH DAY.

    One GLARING fact remains she totally PRAYED for dying CORY not ONCE but THRICE that day, In Tondo cathedral at 8am, Payatas Chapel 11am and in the Ballroom of Sofitel at iipm.

    TO pray for CORY is to FORGIVE her. FORGIVENESS is the greatest gift to give or RECIEVE. Our Father in Heaven FORGAVE us for all eternity by HAVING His Son JESUS die to cleanse the palate of SINS WITHIN.

    Therefore FORGIVENESS is the supreme act of SELFLESSNESS, the most priceless and peerless of VIRTUES to share and be a model of.

    It would be truly sad IF CORY passes away if she has unforgiven issues in her heart.

    I spoke to Imelda on the phone yesterday. She loved her LIONIZATION to a broadsheet reading NATION.

  116. Garganta Inflamada said,

    July 5, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    And I guess if — given all the responsibility — all you can say after 80 years is that you partied a lot and dodged several hundred lawsuits (now why would she attract so many lawsuits in the first place?) instead of sincerely saying that you helped a lot of people altruistically — then that really doesn’t say much, does it?

    Glad I never bought into all that Imierda bullsh*t.

  117. Garganta Inflamada said,

    July 5, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    Some people…precisely the naive, clueless kind who allow a moist environment for viruses and cankers like her to thrive. I really don’t understand how supposedly ‘educated’ people can be taken in by all the feathers and sequins, the hele-hele-bago-quiere, pa-charming-charming “kalandian” of a shallow, harmful (oh yes, she & her cabal did HARM many innocent people) incubus.

    80 years only – my goodness. Cancer and disease been around for much longer. La Imierda’s got a long way to go. 🙂 🙂

  118. vic said,

    July 5, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Though I am no Marcos Loyalist. We must admit that without Mrs Marcos, Art in the Philippines would be still in the doldrums. A lot of Artists now owe a lot to Mrs Marcos. An artist friend of mine said to me that if it was not for Mrs Marcos they would not be able to purchase the house they are living in right now. It is a pity that all the paintings that Mrs Marcos collected during her stay in Malacanang were sold, pilfered or stolen. There were even some stories that when they left Malacanang, paintings were cut of from Canvasses.

  119. July 5, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    Imelda:Enjoy life.Divine Justice awaits you.

  120. tibo said,

    July 5, 2009 at 7:44 am

    yes, a lovely life. At the expense of many future generations unborn yet destined to pay for the foreign debt and their largesse. Shall we celebrate, wax nostalgic and sanitize? We are promised an afterlife where payback is assured. And if by some enchantment everyone whose eaten and been part of their demagougery would vomit blood continuously, i say generations of many offspring would have to pass before it ends with a cough. Live it up people!

  121. Babblefish said,

    July 5, 2009 at 7:02 am

    I agree with Isabella. If you give out nega vibes, the universe will return the compliment. Maybe IRM has found the secret to living well (or maybe her comeuppance is lurking around the corner – who knows!).
    Gotta love this lady – she’s more fun to watch than a barrel of live monkeys! As they say (and no offense meant to Cory’s fans – though I must disclose that I am not one of them), mamatay kayo sa inggit!

  122. isabella said,

    July 5, 2009 at 4:47 am

    It’s proof that what you echo out to the universe is what you receive back. Imelda, despite all the negative stories against her, has always stood by her mantra of the true, the good, the beautiful… and the love that she always tries to evoke. I firmly believe that what you believe deep in your heart shall happen to you. And Imelda has exemplified it in her 80 summers here on earth! She knows how to embrace and celebrate life gloriously, no matter what! Love this Lady!

  123. projectrika said,

    July 5, 2009 at 3:28 am

    LOL.

  124. zippo said,

    July 5, 2009 at 3:19 am

    Larry, your Inquirer front page article failed to mention who the 3 ladies were in the photograph that Dewi Sukarno gave Mrs. Marcos. It was a circa 1980s photo (after EDSA) of Mrs. Marcos, Mrs. Sukarno, and the Empress Farah Diba of Iran — all widows of leaders who were exiled.

    Understandably, because she is such a polarizing figure, Mrs. Marcos’ birthday party enraged her detractors. Remember the old adage — the best revenge is to live well. Well folks…… she’s living well at the age of 80 — she’s in the pink of health, looks very good for her age, her almost 1,000 cases have all been dismissed save for about 30 more which don’t seem to be going anywhere, and , despite her tale that she is “impoverished, is able to live in a duplex Penthouse at One McKinley overlooking the Manila Golf Club and the Polo Club, and is able to give out and attend lavish parties. And her enemies? Gnashing their teeth and shouting that she should be put in jail and burned at the stake. After all the sh*t that she’s been through and after all the sh*t thrown at her, whether as an act of revenge or not and whether it is justified or not, NOBODY can argue that IMELDA IS LIVING HER LIFE WELL. And we have to just live with that fact. A lot of us may not be able to grin about this, but everyone just has to bear with it.

  125. luisa ditan said,

    July 5, 2009 at 1:15 am

    you are spot on!

  126. periphery said,

    July 5, 2009 at 12:03 am

    What’s the old “kasabihan”…

    “Matagal mamatay ang masamang damo.”

    or something like that…

  127. zippo said,

    July 4, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Nice Front Page Article Larry.

    Cheers.

    Z 🙂


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