DysPresidentiables

It will be the Season of DysPresidentiables here in the Philippines SOON.  And YES, I claim my copyright [ and “patent” and “trademark” and Everything the Philippine Intellectual Property Office can provide for me!!!  Harharhar!!! ] over the term “DysPresidentiables.”  I, Toto Gonzalez, invented it.  Just now.

Yes, fellow Filipinos, We will surely elect Another Loser.  Or They, the neocolonial American meddlers, will make us elect Another Loser.  Someone who can so capably Sink Us further into the Quagmire.  Someone “who will row us merrily down the stream” for the umpteenth time.

I’ve given up.  A long time ago.  *shakes head* 

You Inveterate Dreamers out there, tell Us what it’s All About this time!!!

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46 Comments

  1. fabulouslawyer said,

    September 7, 2009 at 6:04 am

    kibosh:

    that’s funny.

  2. kibosh said,

    August 20, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Joke Time:

    Dapat iboto natin si Jamby Madrigal bilang Pangulo ng Pilipinas dahil…

    1 ] Mas mayaman siya kay Manny Villar;

    2 ] Mas lalaki siya kay Mar Roxas;

    3 ] Siguradong walang Kamag-Anak Inc. dahil KAAWAY niya ang lahat ng kamag-anak niya!

    Harharhar!!! 😛 😛 😛

  3. JAA said,

    June 15, 2009 at 9:01 am

    Re: cubao aranetas

    it’s too bad that this line will have to come to an end ( i have no other nicer way to say it ). The “unico hijo” does not have any children. 😦

  4. l*ding said,

    May 31, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    yes. manoling is now with chito.

    the big question is who gets the Banaba property in Forbes since this was one of the properties inherited by Manoling from Chito.

    Did he give it to Jamby “por consolacion” since my favorite jamby had been left out? or did he leave it to his collantes siblings?

    during his bedridden days, jamby wasn’t allowed to visit him in chito’s cambridge circle mansion. policemen were tasked to bar jamby from entering the mansion.

    this is tragic. hopefully, ising could still manage to be the matriarch they all need to persuade the other madrigals to allow jamby to pay her last respects. yes, it was manoling who was very supportive of jamby when she ran for the senate in 2004.

  5. Garganta Inflamada said,

    May 31, 2009 at 7:38 am

    zippo wrote: Wallis and Jacqueline certainly lived that way.

    *************************************

    And they were even more similar in more ways than one. Both were boney, far from shapely, whispery-voiced, flat-chested brunettes. (I saw Jackie twice in close-up when I was living in New York.) Must be those bones and those low-toned voices that attract money.

  6. la vie en rose said,

    May 30, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    Thank you Larry!!! 🙂

  7. zippo said,

    May 30, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    isabella,

    yes, i’ve only been married twice. my family thinks two times is enough. i’m more of an optimist — which is why i said that “the 3rd time’s a charm.”

    yes, i am enjoying the ride. sometimes it feels like a roller coaster, sometimes it feels like a carousel, sometimes it feels like the concorde, sometimes it feels like a slow boat to china — but i am enjoying it.

    Z 🙂

  8. isabella said,

    May 30, 2009 at 9:41 am

    zippo,

    i thought you are married twice only…and it is better? why, life is really full of mystery!
    What’s important is you enjoy your ride!

  9. zippo said,

    May 30, 2009 at 7:53 am

    Who was that who said that, in an ideal world, a person should be married thrice — one’s 1st marriage must be for sex, one’s 2nd marriage must be for money, one’s 3rd marriage should be for companionship.

    Wallis and Jacqueline certainly lived that way.

    As for me, my 1st marriage was for necessity, my 2nd marriage was because of stupidity….. but you know what they say: “3rd time’s a charm.”

    Z 🙂

  10. larry leviste said,

    May 29, 2009 at 5:52 am

    LA VIE EN ROSETTE, I wish to reply :

    Nope, there was no marriage between Jackie and Maurice, but even her children said he was the BEST MAN in her life DAW. Very nurturing and low key and gave in to all her requests, even in her final days to die in hthier bedroom and saw to the last detail her so elegant funeral. To the letter. This companionship should be a template to all us, GOLDEN GIRLS.

    Choose a partner who gives you security in mind, body and SPIRIT, comfort and happy companionship that becomes a true partnership and not OWNERSHIP. Then REAL love grows and goes on FOREVER. Because in the very end, only LOVE remains, for eternity.

    That was what was written in the wedding rings of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor which Calvin Klien bought for his wife Kelly and named a very famous fragrance ETERNITY

    Now Manoling Collantes joins Chito in HEAVEN.

    AY LIFE, WALANG KATAPUSAN.

  11. la vie en rose said,

    May 26, 2009 at 6:25 am

    My mom used to take my sister and me to Tita Joji’s ballet studio for lessons when I was a little girl. She was very tall, beautiful and one of the very few ballet dancers with the most gorgeous legs (ala Juliet Prowse and Cyd Charisse). I can imagine her dancing in heaven……R.I.P. Tita Joji!

    Larry, did Jackie Onassis marry Maurice Tempelsman?

  12. jeremiah said,

    May 24, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    tita joji lived life to the fullest and would have lived forever had she not smoked. she loved everything about life and was so unpretentious. although mestizang mestiza, in the deepest recesses of her huge heart, she was pinay na pinay.

    she now joins her bossom buddy, la chona kasten. they were two peas in a pod.

    so long tita j…

  13. Garganta Inflamada said,

    May 22, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    Sorry to hear that Joji Felix-Velarde passed away. She was a lovely and feisty lady.

  14. larrylevi said,

    May 22, 2009 at 2:34 am

    LIDING, lady of bravura and wisdom,

    My sources have said the noisiest wheels needs oiling, or FUNDING. That actor slash senator Bong Revilla is beating the war drums against Hayden and defending the crying Katrina to strut like a cock ready and is willing to be a VICE predidentiaBALL, so is heiress slash senatress Jamby who has all but slapped Manny Villar for pistols at dawn.

    Kiko has jockeyed in position for the VICE of Manny.

    WE all though how Vice-President ( they milk all the vices daw prostitution, gambling, jueteng and shabu as thier cash-no-receipts resources. ) is a low key and no real job title position in goverment.

    We all know how GMA took her THRONE OF BLOOD as Vice President.

    Also US Lydon B. Johnson and many others in history.

    Second in succession, hey I would just bide my time in the slow lane.

    OF TOPIC, May the soul of Joji Felix Velarde may be in the ETERNAL EMBRACE of Our Father in HEAVEN. She left us all yeasterday.

  15. l*ding said,

    May 21, 2009 at 11:24 am

    gracias my bambino larry. if there is a list of top 3 society writers in broadsheets today, you’ll be one of them. yes i did read them last sunday. you predated your contemporaries.

    re: jamby, she is up for reelection next year unless she runs for vice president. im just curious who will finance her campaign now that grand dame chito madrigal is no longer with us. will it be chuchu? will it be the gelb madrigal? or perhaps gigi? or manoling who is bedridden now? i together with my comadres are still hoping the madrigals will be united once again to support jamby next year like when they were all asked by chito to rally behind jamby in 2004 because the madrigal name is at stake.
    well your guess is as good as mine. i think she will land in the top 5. she is quite popular. i love my ahijada!

  16. konanti said,

    May 21, 2009 at 7:01 am

    Larrylevi said: “… you can’t take it with you.”

    And have you read this article?

    ———

    BPI’s curious take on ‘Chito’ Madrigal estate

    OPEN NOTEBOOK
    By Random Jottings
    The Manila Times

    INCREASINGLY curious gets the saga of the will left behind by the late, great and much lamented businesswoman/philanthropist Consuelo “Chito” Madrigal. And if one goes by talk on the corporate and diplomatic cocktail circuit (not to mention dinner table tattle in gated enclaves) it would seem that the circumstances leading up to it contain all the elements for a storyline that Agatha Christie would have relished.

    To recap on the drama that has riveted this town for months. After her death in early 2008, the declared value of Chito’s estate— as prescribed in the now disputed will—was put at a meager P26 million—with, most surprisingly, just three relatives named as heirs by the matriarch who laid great store in keeping the extended Madrigal clan together.

    Besides the matter of the select heirs, what really arched eyebrows heavenward was the paltry declared worth of the Chito Madrigal estate, since everybody who was anybody knew she was a multimillionaire many times over in pesos, dollars, euros or any other currency one cares to mention.

    Suspecting that something was amiss since, quite glaringly, Chito’s charity foundation that was her pride and joy—and the love of her life for the past several decades—had been left out of the will, her niece Sen. Jamby Madrigal took to the corridors of justice to question the authenticity of the will.

    For several months since the case has progressed through the justice system (and concurrently through juicy newspaper columns!) until February this year when the courts, with finality, ruled that the heirs named would only bequeath the P26 million that was declared, while the rules of mixed succession would apply to the rest of the estate that is worth several billions. In laymen’s language, it meant that other close Madrigal relatives had also been legally declared as heirs to the greater Chito Madrigal estate.

    Which brings us to the present, with the polemic matter taking an intriguing twist after several banks were sent letters informing them of the February court ruling and requesting that all accounts they may hold for Chito Madrigal be frozen.

    Nearly all the banks responded that they didn’t hold any accounts of Chito, but pointed out that in the event they did they would have been ready to comply. But it was generally believed that Chito had standing accounts in only two local banks, Metro-bank and the Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI).

    Suffice it to say that how the country’s biggest bank (Metro-bank) and its oldest (BPI) choose to act in their own differing ways on the court ruling is the talk of the banking community.

    Metrobank’s stand was that in “pursuant to and in compliance with the Orders dated 2 July 2008 and 12 February 2009 issued by the Regional Trial Court of Makati, Branch 148, the bank was constrained to place the accounts of the late Consuelo P. Madrigal on hold, including the accounts of certain corporations over which she had interest.”

    BPI, on the other hand, appeared to shroud itself in chalk-dry legalese, declaring that the bank’s position was that the directive of the court not to dispose of property belonging to Chito Madrigal only referred to accounts specifically bearing her name.

    In so doing BPI appeared to have brushed off the salient fact that it holds at least 18 accounts of corporations which Chito owned or controlled, with Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) records showing the corporations are still listed under Chito’s name with her designated as chairman or president of 16 of them. (Executing a neat foxtrot, an executor of the contested will alleged that these accounts were transferred to other names sometime in 2003. But it seems no one had got around to fixing it with the SEC).

    Conventional wisdom is that when it comes to good governance, corporate ethics and accepted procedures, the banking community acts as one.

    But considering the manner in which BPI choose to take a position diametrically opposite to other banks on the same clear issue is a glaring indictment of the apparent dents in the Philippine banking system.

    And here’s the interesting part. A key personality in the saga is Aurelio Luis R. Mon-tinola III, who is an executor of the will, a contesting party and a beneficiary by family affiliation. Oh yeah . . . we almost forgot—he also happens to be the President of BPI.

    Given those telling circumstances, BPI’s stand (that could well be precedent setting) begs several questions, the most important of which is whether Mon-tinola—because of the serious conflict of interest issue that is so apparent—reclused himself from the decision making process in this particular instance?

    Furthermore, was the stand taken by BPI less to do with safeguarding the interests (and conversely, integrity) of the bank, and more to do with coming up with a decision that gave utmost consideration to the interests (and broad sentiments) of its highest ranked executive?

    There is another burning question sizzling around the banking community. Has the Ayala clan who control BPI been kept abreast of this high profile case? If so, would they be going along with the decision of the bank, even though it does appear to compromise BPI’s rigid code of ethics—something its revered patriarch Jaime Zobel de Ayala and his two highly respected sons Augusto and Fernando have devoted their working lives to maintaining at the highest corporate level.

  17. tryx said,

    May 21, 2009 at 2:24 am

    am enjoying this wonderful exchange…

  18. karimatsu said,

    May 21, 2009 at 1:07 am

    Just curious:

    Aren’t some “presidentiables” ganging up on not-smiling-these-days Vi*lar?

    And the crazy part is that they are having the “matronic” Jam*y as spokesperson who has oh-so-willingly performed the role?

  19. larrylevi said,

    May 20, 2009 at 5:00 am

    THOUGHT FOR THE MOMENT…………..

    JUST REMEMBER, you can’t take it with you. BESIDES on a cold monsoon night, a cash register isn’t something I want to cuddle-cuddle with.

    REMEMBER, how the end was for BROOKE ASTOR.

    Besides, didn’t the MAYAN calendar predict the end of TIMES in 2012, how will Judy, Manny, Mar, Noli, the Ayokos ever recover thier cash cows, stink tanks and war chest of plundered wealth.

    They aren’t KURIPOT, they are eccentric while the poor are plain insane.

    LAUGHING OUT LOUD and dancing on their graves.

    Did I just say that? Silly me.

  20. Garganta Inflamada said,

    May 19, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    Really quite telling how various posters here size up the Phil/Manila scene:

    – one complains that the Araneta give-aways of free MRT passes are ‘stingy’ while

    – another thinks that an underground tunnel (a la Big D of the Boston area) is the solution to traffic on McKinley Road…or more succintly to keep away the hoi polloi from the rarefied gardens of Forbes.

    What strange and disparate thoughts.

    About the Aranetas being ‘stingy’… I don’t think so. People seem to forget old man Amado’s vision of the Coliseum was timely and well-placed. Until then, Manila was stuck only with that cramped, rickety firetrap called Rizal Coliseum. With his new arena, Don Amado was able to enrich Manila’s cultural life and bring both pop and high-art culture (Renata Tebaldi gave a concert at the Araneta Coliseum) to Manila audiences. Also, one time they had M-G-M stalwart Kathryn Grayson (and I think Tony Martin) also give a concert or two at what used to be the New Frontier Cinema. (I remember an aunt was so excited by it…and I wasn’t yet aware who this Kathryn Grayson was.)

    And as Toto said, that’s how the very Rich stay Rich…without being profligate about their spending even tho they can afford it. And on the flip side, well… when it’s time to bankroll something so massive and crucial as a national presidential campaign…well, the cash is there. No need for fundraisers or padrinos to finance the enterprise.

  21. land_rich said,

    May 19, 2009 at 3:33 am

    well judy araneta-roxas is so simple. when i was renewing my american visa last january, i saw her at the embassy as well together with her daughter and grandkids. they queued even though one embassy official is talking to them, she ate the simple hotdog in the pavilion area and sat with the other applicants. although i noticed her hermes birkin bag with her. other people without looking at her surname would think she is a simple school teacher or principal. very simple, spartan, and understated elegance plus the understated “taray” look which we all have maybe because she’s aristocracy.

  22. larrylevi said,

    May 19, 2009 at 2:36 am

    MADAME LIDING, Emperatrix of Toto’s Blog,

    Felicitations and quivering with laughter with your political modes and more.

    Zippo, your astute as you are succinct in your presidentiable exposes.

    And campaign period hasn’t even started. The mudslinging has STARTED. It’s time to TAR and feather the pretenders to the throne.

    KEEP posting the wonderful musings. Very INTELLIGENT and your theories of deduction are SPOT ON.

    OH, according to the Inquirer last sunday, Greggy and Irene apparently have been getting bomb threats, the alleged bomb exploded outside on the street, minor expolosion. Me thinks someone wants to scare them to buy the property.

    Lids, my sweet log on to inquirer.net.ph and put my name larry leviste in the search box in the upper rightmost corner of the home page.

    You will enjoy my latest stories on Louie Cruz brazen BDay bash as well as my side trip to Pacman’s fete at Chavit’s. You may also goggle my name and find older stories. Look at my Vogue Lookbooks there too. I have quite a few, choosing the best from the past two seasons of Milan, NY, Paris and London collections. Maganda.

  23. linksys said,

    May 18, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    when i was in culinary school, i did several stints as a prep cook to a chef who would do private parties in nyc. i eventually became friendly with the help and a lot of them are filipinas. and a typical filipina maid would fill you in with the gossip (with all the gory details ) once they discover that you’re one of them. anyway, he used to live at a building at 63rd and fifth ( i couldn’t forget the address because he lived next door to mrs. h. rockefeller where there were parties galore ) and he had a filipina housekeeper who had no qualms telling me about her filipino boss’ dating habits. and no, it isn’t foul to label him as *** because courtesy of his chatty housekeeper, the entire filipino population within a one-two block radius of 63rd and fifth knows that he’s ***. and who would’ve thought that this guy is going to run for president complete with the “i am ********” roadshow someday? hilarious.

  24. PCA said,

    May 18, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Ay naku… basta I really think the gimmick was sooooo tacky and cheap! Next time, I won’t be surprised if I see both the presidential wanna be and the broadcaster girlfriend flying off to GenSan to attend a post “debut” of “Dionesia” Pacquiao. They might do their ballroom dancing there! After all, I heard their wedding theme is “A Taste of the Philippines.” That’s why daw they’ve been flying to different parts of the country to get the best kuno of each region. O ayan… the best of GenSan: Manny Pacquiao and Dionesia Pacquiao (future bestman and ninang!)

  25. working mama said,

    May 18, 2009 at 11:33 am

    I think it was so nice of the Cubao Aranetas to give out MRT day-passes to those attendees.

    I can certainly use every Php peso I save these days. Can’t we all???

  26. May 18, 2009 at 9:45 am

    Babblefish:

    That’s one way The Very Rich stay VERY RICH.

    We can all learn from them, can’t we? 🙂

  27. Babblefish said,

    May 18, 2009 at 8:44 am

    Re: The Cubao Aranetas’ “kakuriputan.” I so agree. A friend attended a business meeting at Gateway with Jorge “Nene” Araneta, and at the end of the meeting (there were many who attended), the Araneta people started handing out their “thank-you” gifts: day-passes for the MRT.

  28. kibosh said,

    May 18, 2009 at 5:45 am

    l*ding,

    Just wait until Jejobama Binay gets to do what he really wants with McKinley Road.

    Poor You. Poor Us.

  29. issima said,

    May 18, 2009 at 4:35 am

    l*ding,

    OMG. Do you have any idea what kind of monstrous traffic and terrible inconveniences will happen to all of us residents with such a big construction?

    Good thing I don’t live in Manila the whole year.

  30. l*ding said,

    May 18, 2009 at 3:34 am

    and to my dear larry,

    how are iren* and greg*y? i heard from friends that bombs exploded in their forbes house? is that true? “que horror!” we’re no longer safe anywhere!

    i’ve been telling people to stop allowing public cars to pass by mckinley road. and just create an underground tunnel from ayala avenue to the fort for the public. in effect, the mckinley road stretch will be returned to its residents. we’ll feel safer!

  31. l*ding said,

    May 18, 2009 at 3:32 am

    hijo zippo,

    you can quote me on this: the ageless and beautiful gr*tchen op*en-coj*angco watches that “wowwowwee” willie show almost everyday. that’s her afternoon fare whether she’s in balbina or balete. in fact, she told us once that she was in a hotel dining with ec, and she asked for willie’s picture. that’s how powerful that show is. no wonder “muy simpatico” mar and korina chose to appear in that show.

    and it’s like the no. 1 show now right? so it’s not jerry springer but could be saturday night live meets oprah meets deal or no deal…

    with all those crying and guffawing… that show where gr*tchen coj*angco to gr*tchen barret*o is hooked.

  32. Sabin Arranz said,

    May 17, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    Not even close. The equivalent of “Wowowee” in America, in terms of tackiness and kabakyaan is The Jerry Springer Show. Ellen, SNL, The View, and Oprah are not in the same category.

    Forgive my super-outdated example, as I haven’t lived in Manila in a very, very long time, but anyway… It’s almost like you’re saying that an appearance on “Not So Late Night With Edu” or “Penthouse Live” is on the same level of classlessness as an appearance on “That’s Entertainment” or “The GMA Supershow”.

  33. zippo said,

    May 17, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    l*ding,

    how can you compare willie revillame and the “wowowee” “giling girls” to oprah and ellen?

    moreover, dancing on a show is one thing but proposing marriage on national tv in a noontime variety show? that’s kinda cheesy and tasteless. i would have preferred that they danced the “macarena”… or even “la balanga”!!!

    Z

  34. asdf said,

    May 17, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    the aranetas may be superrich but are “kuripot.” they don’t know how to take big risks because they are “segurista.” look at how cubao languished while the other metro commercial centers had undergone several astonishing transformations. ( my god, the zobels’ greenbelt must have undergone at least four makeovers before the aranetas’ gateway came along. ) that’s because they were content to put their money in inherited low-rent structures, smallish businesses, and, yes, time deposits. the tightfisted, risk-averse trait of the cubao aranetas doesn’t bode well for mar.

  35. Vamp said,

    May 16, 2009 at 5:21 am

    Aw c’mon everybody! Chiz Escudero may be a bluffer but he’s cute and sexy! I’d rather have him anytime than the old and fuggly Villar, de Castro, et. al.. Creepy.

    Binay. Oh God. I can’t even imagine myself in bed with him.

    Erap. Can he still get it up at his age?

  36. PCA said,

    May 16, 2009 at 4:08 am

    Zippo,

    Didn’t Korina figure in that much publicized scandal involving her maid years ago? She was living in a condo in Pasig with a former lover when the incident happened. I remember that when everyone in the media was feasting on the issue, she tried her best to even say that she was living alone and that the maid’s statement that she was living in with someone was untrue.

    By the way, that stint at wowowee showing her and her presidentiable senator from cubao professing their love for one another was sooooo tacky and sooooo trapo!

  37. PCA said,

    May 16, 2009 at 4:00 am

    I had always had those observations about escudero’s “statements (as) having no sense at all.” Sometimes, they are translated so literally in Tagalog to make him so well-versed in the native tongue. But just try analyzing what he says… walang sense talaga! The stupid thing about it is that a good number of Pinoys (even educated ones) are so awed by his “walang sense” na statements! My guess is that, sa sobrang literal, nakisakay na lang sila!

  38. social climber said,

    May 14, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    I totally agree on the observation about escudero’s “statements having no sense at all”. I’m glad I am not the only one who noticed that. He really is just good at delivering the lines faster than my brain can process but if you listen closely, his statements do not even make sense at all. He could even just be reciting the lyrics of a song for all we know.

  39. zippo said,

    May 14, 2009 at 4:31 am

    By the way, there is another huge scandal involving Korina. She apparently got expelled from Journalism School at Maryknoll for Plagiarism. Just ask the Journalism Professor who uncovered this ignoble act of Korina — some guy by the name of Orly Mercado (who eventually went on to become Senator and then Defense Secretary).

    Anyway, l*ding, I’m just stating this for purposes of discussion.

    I did mean it though when I said that I hope that between us, there are “NO HARD FEELINGS.” Although I believe that this would be the exact same thing Mar would be telling Korina on their wedding night

    Z

  40. l*ding said,

    May 14, 2009 at 2:10 am

    zippo hijo,

    i love how you write your politics. very smart and shows how passionate you are about it. well, let kris aquino do the pr for mar roxas. i think she will appear in tv ads during the campaign season.

    with regard to villar and de castro, dont you think they have the same market? the masses. so they will split the vote. this will benefit “muy simpatico” mar because his market is spread on all classes.

    escudero is young but can run because he will turn 45 this year according to my friend from npc. talks are ripe that danding’s npc who is pro-admin will pick escudero because of his obama charisma. i beg to differ because escudero’s statements do not have any sense at all. he’s only good at delivering those lines but no sense at all. in short, such an actor.

    i don’t think swannie roces will endorse a presidentiable who is allied with gloria.

    but this binay guy whose ambitions are higher than one roxas triangle is to me not winnable. to quote kris aquino: i admire tito nene and mayor fred. they are simple politicians whose cars were the same since time immemorial. can she say the same about binay? i’m shocked with swannie because she chose to align herself with binay and erap. how unholy that alliance is!

    well, with de castro, i dont think manny p. will support one candidate only. and he can’t run. he’s not known in the provinces. they don’t have pldt and meralco there. but i admire manny p.. you have to realize that the salims will not allow manny p. to run. who will replace him? the salims’ wealth is at stake. they’ve invested so much in the philippines already.

    with villar, yes he bought the laurel mansion because, according to my compadre, the laurels needed the money. and villar as the richest nacionalista offered to buy it. villar incidentaly is now living in wack-wack. very strategic location. from wack-wack to malacanang? or wack-wack back to las pinas? i wish the latter.

    josine elizalde should support mar roxas. if only for the love mar invested years ago. and who in his right mind would dare call mar gay / bisexual? that to me is FOUL!

  41. zippo said,

    May 13, 2009 at 3:50 am

    l*ding,

    i try to present my case detached from any personal ties or biases i may have. truth to tell, i haven’t made up my mind as of yet. i still feel it’s de castro vs. villar at this point.

    just look at the surveys — since the 1992 elections, they have always been spot on. sws had the following leading candidates in 1992: fvr and miriam in a virtual tie with danding a close third (this is exactly what happened as fvr won by a few percentage points over miriam); in 1998: sws said it would be erap by a mile over jdv (this is exactly what happened); in 2004: sws said gma and fpj in a virtual tie (again, this is what happened with gma winning by a few percentage points over fpj).

    my question dearest l*ding is why, even with the korina factor, is mar languishing even behind escudero?

    de castro, loren, and villar have been topping the surveys for more than a year now.

    re de castro’s marital scandal, the first wife has more scandals of her own. the so-called “sons” aren’t even his own. moreover, his daughter with his 1st wife was raised by de castro and his 2nd wife and has always sided with her father.

    as regards villar, i have been very surprised with his strong showing in the polls. i used to think that he will be 2010’s mitra (his much vaunted machinery did not translate to votes). but as the only businessman in the presidential field so far, he seems to have certainly done his homework. and his ads seem to be more well-produced especially if compared to that stupidly done “padyak” commercial of mar. moreover, as regards your thesis, dear l*ding, that he will not spend his hard-earned money to get elected, what the hell do you call buying even the laurel mansion to serve as his headquarters? moreover, i was told that 3 or 4 other filipino businessmen (very low-key) in the forbes philippines top 20 richest list are supporting villar.

    as to mar, i think that if he doesn’t move up the survey rankings by august or september, he will have a very very hard time winning. my god, the last sws survey i saw, he was even lagging behind de castro, villar, and loren in negros!!! that’s hiligaynon country!!! you would think mar would rate well there! could it be because of judy roxas and her legendary “kasupladahan”, nay, “katarayan”? why do you think gerry roxas lost the vice-presidency in 1965? my lola always said that the 1965 vice-presidential race was really a battle between mariquit lopez vs. judy roxas — obviously the more pleasant woman won. my lola said that baby (fores) would have been the better araneta wife for a politician rather than judy as baby f. was more “ma-p.r.” than judy. my lola said that the dowdy looking eva macapagal and the dour looking judy roxas had absolutely no chance against the beautiful imelda and the gracious mariquit in 1965. well if mar gets married to korina, that will be “kasupladahan” times 2 — good luck to him when that happens. his only hope, i believe, is to leave luzon to be fought by the rest of the field and concentrate on the visayas by consolidating the hiligaynon-bisaya-waray vote. but i do know that the marcoses — especially bonget (who is related to mar by affinity through bonget’s wife, the former liza araneta), is an ardent mar supporter (bonget topped the senate race in capiz in 1995 courtesy of mar while mar topped the senate race in ilocos norte in 2004 courtesy of bonget).

    as to your thesis, dear l*ding, that if mar gets one of the presidentiables as his vp he will win — i do not subscribe to this. a popular running mate (i suspect you mean noli de castro whom villar is also talking to) will only do a presidentiable good if the presidentiable is as popular as the running mate. did the popular erap do any good to danding in 1992? did the then popular gma do any good to jdv in 1998?

    as regards mvp, i don’t think he’ll give up his empire by running. but if he does, i think he’ll be a formidable candidate but is the country ready to elect a “life-long bachelor who’s ********* about his private romantic life”? i really haven’t figured this out. why don’t we ask around?

    all i know is this: if erap runs (granting the supreme court rules that his candidacy is legally permissible), then “tapos na ang boxing”. one has to hand it to the guy — he’s still the most popular politician notwithstanding all his scandals and notwithstanding the fact that his presidency would be bad for our economy. so please, mesdames loi, guia, and laarni, please, please, PLEASE tell him to just be a “statesman” and leave the presidential race to the baby-boom and/or martial law baby generations.

    l*ding, this is just a friendly rejoinder to your reply to my answer to your original posted comment. no hard feelings, i hope. cheers!

    z

  42. isabella said,

    May 12, 2009 at 2:17 am

    zippo,

    i am with your opinion, Korina is not a plus factor for Mar; specially that she pretends she is virginal… everyone in makati knows of her Paul Aquino live-in episode. why? why? why pretend now? are we that stupid to buy into her telenovela now? Zippo, are you not in contact with MVP? Please convince him to join the presidential race!

  43. l*ding said,

    May 11, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    zippo hijo,

    manolo lopez is behind the mar roxas campaign and so are the lagdameos. in fact elvira’s son johnny manahan (fores-manahan-makati med connection) is part of the roxas think tank. abs cbn will harness the power of its stars to promote the candidacy of my favorite araneta, mar roxas.

    i dont think noli will win, he is still hounded by so many scandals like the complaints of his wifes sons from a previous marriage, how he got rich etc, and so is villar, do you think lacson and madrigal will just allow villar to dodge the senate ethics very easily?

    and please loren should learn from history, this country will never elect another woman president after another. look at miriam from cory.

    hijo, mar will never get gwen due to abs cbn’s hatred of the garcias. add the osmenas hatred to the garcias.

    i know from my madrina that mar is trying get one of the presidentiables to be his vp. i dont know with pangilinan if he will run with him. dont you think he’s too young that kiko guy?

    i would have wanted a mar-kris combination buy kris is underage. josephine told me could be 2016 when the jose cojuangco sons will again regain malacanang.

    judy i heard is now transfering billions from here decades old time deposit account to her checking account. as what my comadre from pampanga once said “para isang pirma lang, kwarta na”. well this is understandable as she will be the main financier of mar roxas. i hope the zobel roxas get more active this time and try to help mar who is most deserving.

    villar who got rich thru hardwork and what not i dont think will spend everything just to get elected. he has a budget and mind you, if other big business wont come in his way, he will lose the homestretch.

    i dont know with the taipans, but usually they bet on the top 4 candidates. meaning they give at least 50-100 million to each candidate (thats what lucia told my friend)

    well for korina, she’s not claiming shes a virgin queen. she had her mistakes but at the end of the day she was for the poor, i curse when inefficiencies are served on me. look at all the first lady wannabes, shes the most beautiful its just right for mar to harness that strength. as for the others, need i say more? well ill tell you a story which brought laughter to our mahjong sesssion, the wife of this senate presidentiable was at their house when one of her husbands employee came to deliver something. the poor hapless employee thought she was the maid and asked for the “real wife”, the poor wife got shocked and demanded that this employee be fired the following day!!! Hahahah!!!

    well with erap, he doesnt have chito madrigal now unlike in 98. he cant rely on the aranetas also as mar is running. no more chavit. what do you think? if he runs for vp and assumes the presidency ? is that allowed?

  44. May 11, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    zippo:

    OMG. ROTFLMAO!!! 😛 😛 😛

  45. zippo said,

    May 11, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    l*ding,

    i really don’t know why people in power have absolutely no sense of reality. it was soooo obvious that jdv couldn’t have possibly won against the uber-popular estrada.

    with mar, however, being the only visayan amongst the presidentiables, he stands a good chance to be elected. moreso if he gets another popular visayan as a veep like cebu gov. gwen garcia (solidifying the visayan vote may just tilt the balance in their favor). BUT i think that if he pushes through with marrying korina, this will do him more harm than good. korina’s legions of haters (especially those who have worked with her in abs-cbn) are already compiling things against her (the paul aquino live-in issue, the maltreatment of maids/house help/production assistants/drivers issue, the press-payola issue, etc.).

    if the mar-korina wedding pushes through, my money will be on either de castro or villar. villar will have more funds than mar. de castro, if it’s true that mvp is backing him up, may be able to match villar’s funds (also, de castro’s present wife, arlene [an abs-cbn executive] comes from the politically entrenched sinsuat family of mindanao).

    if danding gets re-involved with his party and his nephew gilbert decides not to run, i think his party, if it fields escudero, may stand a chance. but if it fields loren instead of escudero, it could be very iffy at best for danding’s party (loren and korina aren’t exactly that well-liked by their staff and former staff).

    the civil society candidates like governor panlilio and justice puno won’t fare that well (see what happened to the late raul roco, salonga, and mayor lim — no matter that they were probably the best candidates. the philippine electorate is not yet mature to elect such people).

    gordon, fernando, and binay stand no chance (again, why do these people blind themselves with the false notion that they could win).

    francis pangilinan, however, may have an outside shot due to the megastar factor.

    but i think it will still be be villar, de castro, and mar (if he doesn’t marry korina) who will be duking it out. escudero and francis pangilinan will be the dark horses.

    if, however, erap runs (if the supreme court rules that he is still qualified), then that changes the ballgame. my money will be on him (if he does get elected though, my money will be on the utter destruction of the philippine economy).

    z

  46. l*ding said,

    May 11, 2009 at 1:36 am

    the next first lady hopefully, korina sanchez flew to cebu recently according to my comadre amp*rito. she will wear a monique lhuillier gown. apparently, amp*rito dabbles as the “magsusukat” of her famous daughter for her philippine clients. that’s cheaper than flying to beverly hills.

    i remember when joe de venecia ran in 1998. according to my friend mare justa tantoco, gina de venecia two months before the election was already in malacanang with her decorator to measure the palace for her new curtains of choice. oh destiny! i truly believe the presidency is a matter of destiny. gina could have been the perfect first lady with all her pr c/o her very nice parents, the vera-perezes of bulacan.


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